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It wouldn’t be a good reviewing process from the users side if you can’t have certainty that the apps in the store have passed the process successfully. The use

It wouldn’t be a good reviewing process from the users side if you can’t have certainty that the apps in the store have passed the process successfully. The users should have this certainty, not the devs.

pier25 6y ago
You're assuming the review process is infalible which I know for a fact is not always the case. There's also a lot of interpretation involved. An app might pass the review and another very similar one might not. See this comment for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24333426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24333426
rowanG077 6y ago
What passes review is negatively correlated with quality I'd wager. The app store is literally filled with malware and it apparently easily passed review. While I hear horror stories from almost all devs that actually try to make something legitimate.
strbean 6y ago
Gotta have that good reviewing process: https://fnd.io/#/us/ios-universal-app/1528248331-fall-guys-knockout-ultimate-by-jpseph-ra https://fnd.io/#/us/ios-universal-app/1528248331-fall-guys-k... Obviously Jpseph Rader is a subsidiary of Mediatonic, not some random guy flagrantly stealing Mediatonic's IP!
- donmcronald 6y ago
  Wow. #7 in trivia (#8 when I looked on my iPad). 4.3k stars with an average rating of 4/5 with the first release 13 days ago. My very rough estimate (by scrolling) is about 60 reviews, mostly 1 star. Some of the reviews are... something. > #WorstGameEverBigRipoff, T E R R I B L E GAME, 5 stars Haha. That game sums up my impression of the app store perfectly. It's a bunch of bad actors buying ratings and lying and cheating to get to the top of the charts where they can exploit addictive behavior to extract money from vulnerable people and children. I see tons of garbage like that on the app store. It's easy to see too. Play some kids games and click the ads for other games. It trash, trash, trash, and more trash.
  - benologist 6y ago
    Apple has been sued for games defrauding children thousands of dollars, but what's really ridiculous and amazing is they are not alone. All of the tech giants have gotten in trouble for defrauding children with deceptive in-app purchases. So far we know Facebook recognized it as fraud and referred to it as fraud internally so it's a bit hard to believe it is innocently occurring again and again wherever platforms permit games to bill unlimited amounts and players to perform unlimited transactions and developers to obfuscate transactions with layers of cash substitutes like gems and virtual currencies. Apple: https://money.cnn.com/2014/01/15/technology/apple-ftc-settlement/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2014/01/15/technology/apple-ftc-settle... Amazon: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ftc-sues-amazon-app-purchases-blame https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ftc-sues-amazon-app-pur... Facebook: https://phys.org/news/2016-07-facebook-refunds-in-app-minors.html https://phys.org/news/2016-07-facebook-refunds-in-app-minors... Google: https://lifehacker.com/get-a-refund-for-your-kids-unauthorized-in-app-google-p-1669810949 https://lifehacker.com/get-a-refund-for-your-kids-unauthoriz... Microsoft: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/child-spends-45k-in-microtransactions-parent-wants/aba0c897-9689-4122-93e3-9bac50b203cd https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/child-spe...

pier25 6y ago

You're assuming the review process is infalible which I know for a fact is not always the case. There's also a lot of interpretation involved. An app might pass the review and another very similar one might not. See this comment for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24333426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24333426

rowanG077 6y ago

What passes review is negatively correlated with quality I'd wager. The app store is literally filled with malware and it apparently easily passed review. While I hear horror stories from almost all devs that actually try to make something legitimate.

strbean 6y ago

Gotta have that good reviewing process: https://fnd.io/#/us/ios-universal-app/1528248331-fall-guys-knockout-ultimate-by-jpseph-ra https://fnd.io/#/us/ios-universal-app/1528248331-fall-guys-k... Obviously Jpseph Rader is a subsidiary of Mediatonic, not some random guy flagrantly stealing Mediatonic's IP!

donmcronald 6y ago
Wow. #7 in trivia (#8 when I looked on my iPad). 4.3k stars with an average rating of 4/5 with the first release 13 days ago. My very rough estimate (by scrolling) is about 60 reviews, mostly 1 star. Some of the reviews are... something. > #WorstGameEverBigRipoff, T E R R I B L E GAME, 5 stars Haha. That game sums up my impression of the app store perfectly. It's a bunch of bad actors buying ratings and lying and cheating to get to the top of the charts where they can exploit addictive behavior to extract money from vulnerable people and children. I see tons of garbage like that on the app store. It's easy to see too. Play some kids games and click the ads for other games. It trash, trash, trash, and more trash.
- benologist 6y ago
  Apple has been sued for games defrauding children thousands of dollars, but what's really ridiculous and amazing is they are not alone. All of the tech giants have gotten in trouble for defrauding children with deceptive in-app purchases. So far we know Facebook recognized it as fraud and referred to it as fraud internally so it's a bit hard to believe it is innocently occurring again and again wherever platforms permit games to bill unlimited amounts and players to perform unlimited transactions and developers to obfuscate transactions with layers of cash substitutes like gems and virtual currencies. Apple: https://money.cnn.com/2014/01/15/technology/apple-ftc-settlement/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2014/01/15/technology/apple-ftc-settle... Amazon: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ftc-sues-amazon-app-purchases-blame https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ftc-sues-amazon-app-pur... Facebook: https://phys.org/news/2016-07-facebook-refunds-in-app-minors.html https://phys.org/news/2016-07-facebook-refunds-in-app-minors... Google: https://lifehacker.com/get-a-refund-for-your-kids-unauthorized-in-app-google-p-1669810949 https://lifehacker.com/get-a-refund-for-your-kids-unauthoriz... Microsoft: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/child-spends-45k-in-microtransactions-parent-wants/aba0c897-9689-4122-93e3-9bac50b203cd https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/child-spe...