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I see several comments questioning the choice of Manjaro on PinePhone, but as the name suggests it's Community Edition after all; Those who want Manjaro on smar

I see several comments questioning the choice of Manjaro on PinePhone, but as the name suggests it's Community Edition after all; Those who want Manjaro on smartphone, now have a device to develop for. I think, the way Pine64 is pushing these CE devices is smart and definitely a positive step for overall pure Linux smartphone ecosystem. But, I'm also hearing great things about Mobian[1] on PinePhone and AFAIK it's being largely developed by an individual. I would like Pine64 to come up with a way to support these talented individual developers as well, besides supporting large well-established communities. [1]https://mobian-project.org/ https://mobian-project.org/

RealStickman_ 6y ago
I can confirm that Mobian is pretty good. And I'd love a community edition of it.
squeezingswirls 6y ago
Meanwhile you can install Mobian in any Pinephone, and support the Mobian Project here https://liberapay.com/mobian/donate https://liberapay.com/mobian/donate
megous 6y ago
Lot of the projects pinephone depends on are developed just by a bunch of talented individuals. Majority of the PinePhone specific bootloader/firwmare/kernel driver work and upstreaming is done by maybe 3 individuals, neither of whom are associated with any of the distros supported so far, AFAIK. And you can't have a working distro without a working kernel. A lot of value is based on the results of linux-sunxi.org project, and related communities, like lima project, etc. It's FOSS, hey. Everything depends on everything, and it's kind of a hard to support everyone. I personally wish for a "Linux kernel CE" edition, in the future, being one of those kernel devs. ;)
- tpxl 6y ago
  How/where does one contribute? Is there a guide specifically for this (phone/pinephone development). I couldn't quite figure it out from the mobian repo ):
  - megous 6y ago
    Icenowy did the initial board bringup, I think: https://github.com/Icenowy https://github.com/Icenowy I don't know if Samuel accepts donations, but his contact info is here: https://sholland.org/about/ https://sholland.org/about/ (he's responsible for the huge power saving optimizations that PinePhone got this year, and for the sound codec improvements, that were necessary for making calls work) And I have a page here: https://xnux.eu/contribute.html https://xnux.eu/contribute.html As for the mobian I don't know. I don't follow distributions that much.
    - tpxl 6y ago
      I meant code contributions, but thanks for the links ;)
      - megous 6y ago
        Ah, you can contribute just by doing something for the project you're interested in. None of the development is centrally organized. There's plenty of stuff to do. I can give you a bunch of hints if you're a kernel dev. :)
        tpxl 6y ago
        I'm not (yet?) a kernel dev; I haven't ever contributed to any OS project, but I'd like to start with the pinephone.
        megous 6y ago
        Bootlin has some very nice introductory training materials online: https://bootlin.com/doc/training/linux-kernel/ https://bootlin.com/doc/training/linux-kernel/ https://bootlin.com/docs/ https://bootlin.com/docs/ Allwinner SoC used in PinePhone has a longstanding community around it organized around http://linux-sunxi.org/ http://linux-sunxi.org/ There are a lot of materials, including datasheets there, etc. https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone wiki also has a lot of information. #pinedev at freenode is where the kernel development discussion happens, so feel free to join there.

RealStickman_ 6y ago

I can confirm that Mobian is pretty good. And I'd love a community edition of it.

squeezingswirls 6y ago

Meanwhile you can install Mobian in any Pinephone, and support the Mobian Project here https://liberapay.com/mobian/donate https://liberapay.com/mobian/donate

megous 6y ago

Lot of the projects pinephone depends on are developed just by a bunch of talented individuals. Majority of the PinePhone specific bootloader/firwmare/kernel driver work and upstreaming is done by maybe 3 individuals, neither of whom are associated with any of the distros supported so far, AFAIK. And you can't have a working distro without a working kernel. A lot of value is based on the results of linux-sunxi.org project, and related communities, like lima project, etc. It's FOSS, hey. Everything depends on everything, and it's kind of a hard to support everyone. I personally wish for a "Linux kernel CE" edition, in the future, being one of those kernel devs. ;)

tpxl 6y ago
How/where does one contribute? Is there a guide specifically for this (phone/pinephone development). I couldn't quite figure it out from the mobian repo ):
- megous 6y ago
  Icenowy did the initial board bringup, I think: https://github.com/Icenowy https://github.com/Icenowy I don't know if Samuel accepts donations, but his contact info is here: https://sholland.org/about/ https://sholland.org/about/ (he's responsible for the huge power saving optimizations that PinePhone got this year, and for the sound codec improvements, that were necessary for making calls work) And I have a page here: https://xnux.eu/contribute.html https://xnux.eu/contribute.html As for the mobian I don't know. I don't follow distributions that much.
  - tpxl 6y ago
    I meant code contributions, but thanks for the links ;)
    - megous 6y ago
      Ah, you can contribute just by doing something for the project you're interested in. None of the development is centrally organized. There's plenty of stuff to do. I can give you a bunch of hints if you're a kernel dev. :)
      - tpxl 6y ago
        I'm not (yet?) a kernel dev; I haven't ever contributed to any OS project, but I'd like to start with the pinephone.
        megous 6y ago
        Bootlin has some very nice introductory training materials online: https://bootlin.com/doc/training/linux-kernel/ https://bootlin.com/doc/training/linux-kernel/ https://bootlin.com/docs/ https://bootlin.com/docs/ Allwinner SoC used in PinePhone has a longstanding community around it organized around http://linux-sunxi.org/ http://linux-sunxi.org/ There are a lot of materials, including datasheets there, etc. https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone wiki also has a lot of information. #pinedev at freenode is where the kernel development discussion happens, so feel free to join there.