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> Managers will have to let go of the desire to see that everyone is in their seat. Was it front-line managers who thought this or directors and VPs? Front-li
by mikece 6y ago
> Managers will have to let go of the desire to see that everyone is in their seat.
Was it front-line managers who thought this or directors and VPs? Front-line managers have a better pulse on what their team(s) are doing by keeping an eye on Github/GitLab/VSTS checkins, PRs, and kanban boards than by seeing who has a butt in a seat. It's usually the more senior (and disconnected) managers who get nervous when they don't see their domain fully staffed between 9am and 3pm.
- save_ferris 6y agoIt’s been mostly the C-level people in my experience. Before covid, I worked for a company that required everyone to physically be in the office for 8 hours and asked us to set our arrival and departure times with the director of engineering. That was a pretty extreme case, but that all came down from the CEO, who was obsessed with “visibility == productivity”.
- foogazi 6y agoAt a previous job the CEO visited an office on a Friday and found a half-empty office due to many people taking a WFH Friday So they cancelled WFH Fridays I wonder what they think of WFH now
- ssimpson 6y agoI remember my VP saying one time "the CEO is going to be in our office this week, everyone needs to be here, no questions".
- Loughla 6y agoWe have a rule in our office that, if you leave the office, you leave your light on. We have an administrator who gets visibly upset if it appears that we are not in our office 8-5 at least. And the programs I work with (outside of tech) work offsite. If they're here, they're prepping. The real work happens out in the community. Old timey work mentality = broken.