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I'm signing up for the Pfizer phase 3 trial today. I have every confidence in the world that the researchers involved know what they are doing and would never p

I'm signing up for the Pfizer phase 3 trial today. I have every confidence in the world that the researchers involved know what they are doing and would never push something like this if it weren't safe. If I don't get the placebo (fingers crossed), I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity against SARS-CoV-2. That's worth a slight risk in my opinion. I honestly don't think they can do this fast enough. The difference of having this vaccine by the end of the year versus waiting until next spring could mean hundreds of thousands of lives.

waihtis 6y ago
Good luck, but you should consider that this isn’t a ”researcher is good/bad” issue, this is a ”global pharma race for billions in profits” issue with all kinds of interference from management, finance, etc.
- yread 6y ago
  More like "this stuff is super difficult/they have validated it on very small samples so only do it if you're feeling lucky"
- jmeister 6y ago
  what’s wrong with profits? As long as they lead to delivering to the public/govt. what is needed?
  - waihtis 6y ago
    The argument is not against profits but rather there is a huge first-to-market benefit here, which might have an impact on usual quality and safety measures.
Numberwang 6y ago
Well, the vaccine will only last a few months until you get a new shot. Might as well wait a bit.
raverbashing 6y ago
Thank you for volunteering
rbinv 6y ago
> I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity against SARS-CoV-2 More like, one of the first vaccine-induced immunities. Regular survivors develop an immunity, after all.
disgu 6y ago
I'm not trying to be a negative nancy here but from what you write you really don't seem to understand the potential risks of medical trials or how they work. I'm not saying you should not participate but you seem a bit misinformed. > the researchers involved know what they are doing and would never push something like this if it weren't safe No, they do all the time. They do not know if it's safe. They don't have enough indication that it's unsafe. There's a huuuge difference. That's what the trials are for: To find out if they're safe and work. Both assertions can only be made after the trials. > I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity against SARS-CoV-2 Millions already are. Just read the papers you'll sign carefully so you don't go into all of this while not being 100% informed.
actsasbuffoon 6y ago
> I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity You might become one of the first. Not all people gain immunity from vaccines. That's one of the things that the phase 3 trial is designed to measure. Good luck, though. We really need a working vaccine, pronto. Thank you for participating.
Fjolsvith 6y ago
Actually, you would be one of first people to have an immunity to SARS-Cov-2 that hasn't already been infected by it.

waihtis 6y ago

Good luck, but you should consider that this isn’t a ”researcher is good/bad” issue, this is a ”global pharma race for billions in profits” issue with all kinds of interference from management, finance, etc.

yread 6y ago
More like "this stuff is super difficult/they have validated it on very small samples so only do it if you're feeling lucky"
jmeister 6y ago
what’s wrong with profits? As long as they lead to delivering to the public/govt. what is needed?
- waihtis 6y ago
  The argument is not against profits but rather there is a huge first-to-market benefit here, which might have an impact on usual quality and safety measures.

Numberwang 6y ago

Well, the vaccine will only last a few months until you get a new shot. Might as well wait a bit.

raverbashing 6y ago

Thank you for volunteering

rbinv 6y ago

> I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity against SARS-CoV-2 More like, one of the first vaccine-induced immunities. Regular survivors develop an immunity, after all.

disgu 6y ago

I'm not trying to be a negative nancy here but from what you write you really don't seem to understand the potential risks of medical trials or how they work. I'm not saying you should not participate but you seem a bit misinformed. > the researchers involved know what they are doing and would never push something like this if it weren't safe No, they do all the time. They do not know if it's safe. They don't have enough indication that it's unsafe. There's a huuuge difference. That's what the trials are for: To find out if they're safe and work. Both assertions can only be made after the trials. > I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity against SARS-CoV-2 Millions already are. Just read the papers you'll sign carefully so you don't go into all of this while not being 100% informed.

actsasbuffoon 6y ago

> I will be one of the first people in the world with an immunity You might become one of the first. Not all people gain immunity from vaccines. That's one of the things that the phase 3 trial is designed to measure. Good luck, though. We really need a working vaccine, pronto. Thank you for participating.

Fjolsvith 6y ago

Actually, you would be one of first people to have an immunity to SARS-Cov-2 that hasn't already been infected by it.