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This reminds me to be afraid as a blind pedestrian in this modern world of automated danger. I still remember it took me a while as a kid to begin and trust th

This reminds me to be afraid as a blind pedestrian in this modern world of automated danger. I still remember it took me a while as a kid to begin and trust that drivers would actually see me. I think I will never trust that self-driving cars will react properly to me being blind.

Pelic4n 6y ago
Yup, this is a danger to anybody not displaying standard body language, like blind or autistic people, or even people from other cultures & countries.
- mlang23 6y ago
  Learning about the "Vertrauensgrundsatz" (principle of trust) is an essential part of gaining a drivers license where I come from. Essentially, you learn that some humans can not be trusted to make the proper decisions. Obviously drunk pedestrians, children, people who are blind, just to name a few well known examples. I doubt this principle is already implemented in autonomously driving cars. The gist of the principle of trust is, that you as a driver are responsible to make sure you don't hurt these people. Yes, even if they are drunk. You are the one driving a deadly vehicle. So it is your call to m ake sure you dont overrun anyone who is currently incapacitated when it comes to ensuring their own safety. How will this general principle be implemented by autonomous car pcmpanies? I sort of doubt it will be kept. Lobbying will likely erode this very important part of the responsibility of a vehicle driver.
perl4ever 6y ago
I thought that electric cars had to have a noisemaker of some sort. I encountered a Tesla yesterday, and while I could hear it, like its tires and the brakes releasing, it didn't seem to have any artificial sound as it drove away.
- mlang23 6y ago
  The artifical sound, which isnt mandatory yet where I life, doesn't help to minimize danger IMO. A car is way faster then I would be able to react.

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This reminds me to be afraid as a blind pedestrian in this modern world of automated danger. I still remember it took me a while as a kid to begin and trust th

by mlang23 6y ago

Pelic4n 6y ago
Yup, this is a danger to anybody not displaying standard body language, like blind or autistic people, or even people from other cultures & countries.
- mlang23 6y ago
  Learning about the "Vertrauensgrundsatz" (principle of trust) is an essential part of gaining a drivers license where I come from. Essentially, you learn that some humans can not be trusted to make the proper decisions. Obviously drunk pedestrians, children, people who are blind, just to name a few well known examples. I doubt this principle is already implemented in autonomously driving cars. The gist of the principle of trust is, that you as a driver are responsible to make sure you don't hurt these people. Yes, even if they are drunk. You are the one driving a deadly vehicle. So it is your call to m ake sure you dont overrun anyone who is currently incapacitated when it comes to ensuring their own safety. How will this general principle be implemented by autonomous car pcmpanies? I sort of doubt it will be kept. Lobbying will likely erode this very important part of the responsibility of a vehicle driver.
perl4ever 6y ago
I thought that electric cars had to have a noisemaker of some sort. I encountered a Tesla yesterday, and while I could hear it, like its tires and the brakes releasing, it didn't seem to have any artificial sound as it drove away.
- mlang23 6y ago
  The artifical sound, which isnt mandatory yet where I life, doesn't help to minimize danger IMO. A car is way faster then I would be able to react.