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> or boot up Linux and have to fight to get a core function like system updates or audio working How are these issues? Ubuntu has had these sorts of problems s

by ikt 6y ago

> or boot up Linux and have to fight to get a core function like system updates or audio working How are these issues? Ubuntu has had these sorts of problems sorted for a while now?

gtf21 6y ago
I was very pleasantly surprised when I switched from macOS -> PopOS -> Arch how easy everything was. Have zero problems with drivers, updates, etc.. I'd even say I have fewer mysterious issues than I had on macOS because at least I can see how everything works.
brundolf 6y ago
Just the other day I was trying to install a package through apt and kept hitting some error about a lock file. After some googling it appeared to be because the OS was doing an auto-update process in the background. Which in itself is something I'd want, but it's insane as a user experience that it would block you from installing anything else and show nothing but a cryptic console error. So then I had to dig in and figure out how to kill the other process so I could install what I needed, which ended up putting my apt in a corrupt state so I had to run a repair process. By the time I got everything sorted out, an hour was gone. This was the simplest possible task, and it was on Ubuntu LTS. Seemingly every time I have to switch over to Linux for something I end up dealing with an issue like this. Yak shaving was fun when I was in college, these days I just want to get on with my life.
- ricketycricket 6y ago
  Perhaps the error message should be improved, but your response shouldn't be to kill an update process mid-update and assume everything will be ok. The OS didn't cause that issue.
  - brundolf 6y ago
    As far as I could tell it was only downloading the update, not actively installing it, which just makes the error even more frustrating. I assume the OS would at least show me a real dialog when it was in the process of applying the update. Then again, who knows.

by ikt 6y ago

> or boot up Linux and have to fight to get a core function like system updates or audio working How are these issues? Ubuntu has had these sorts of problems sorted for a while now?

gtf21 6y ago

I was very pleasantly surprised when I switched from macOS -> PopOS -> Arch how easy everything was. Have zero problems with drivers, updates, etc.. I'd even say I have fewer mysterious issues than I had on macOS because at least I can see how everything works.

brundolf 6y ago

Just the other day I was trying to install a package through apt and kept hitting some error about a lock file. After some googling it appeared to be because the OS was doing an auto-update process in the background. Which in itself is something I'd want, but it's insane as a user experience that it would block you from installing anything else and show nothing but a cryptic console error. So then I had to dig in and figure out how to kill the other process so I could install what I needed, which ended up putting my apt in a corrupt state so I had to run a repair process. By the time I got everything sorted out, an hour was gone. This was the simplest possible task, and it was on Ubuntu LTS. Seemingly every time I have to switch over to Linux for something I end up dealing with an issue like this. Yak shaving was fun when I was in college, these days I just want to get on with my life.

ricketycricket 6y ago
Perhaps the error message should be improved, but your response shouldn't be to kill an update process mid-update and assume everything will be ok. The OS didn't cause that issue.
- brundolf 6y ago
  As far as I could tell it was only downloading the update, not actively installing it, which just makes the error even more frustrating. I assume the OS would at least show me a real dialog when it was in the process of applying the update. Then again, who knows.