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Nah. I don't buy it. I don't think that future will ever come to pass in any democratic country, even a sham democracy like the US. The evil forces haven't even

Nah. I don't buy it. I don't think that future will ever come to pass in any democratic country, even a sham democracy like the US. The evil forces haven't even managed to get an encryption-backdoor law passed, and most policymakers don't even understand that issue. What you're describing is so far beyond any social issue of today in terms of egregious and horrifying threats to society that it would just get voted out of existence so hard you'd barely know it was ever a risk. Nobody will ever let thought intrusion come to pass.

taneq 6y ago
> The evil forces haven't even managed to get an encryption-backdoor law passed They've managed to do a few other pretty evil things recently, though. And they're going to keep trying until they get it through. They only have to win once, and then no government is going to voluntarily give up the extra power and control.
gpm 6y ago
On the flip side, everyone is now walking around with an internet connected camera, microphone, and location tracker in their pocket. Most of us are livestreaming their location to cloud services. I don't think this will come to pass as a mandate from on high, but it might come to pass as a practical device that everyone needs to function in modern society.
kohtatsu 6y ago
Unless they don't know it's coming to pass :o Or you're in an authoritarian regime where not having an implant may result in longer lines, less financing options, no plane access, harder train access, and direct pressure on/from friends. I'm not worried about those things happening in Canada tomorrow though.
kodah 6y ago
Most tech companies are in-line with some form of abuse. Whether it's creating campaigns against reasonable salary increases to installing highly intuitive applications to track and monitor your activity as an employee. More simply put, things we'd give people felonies for tech companies (and others) get a pass. I could believe this dystopian future, especially as political forces continue to form stern camps whose only substantive difference is an opposing view to the other.
vinnymac 6y ago
I find it strange that you point out that policy makers do not comprehend these concepts, yet believe it will be voted out. They are just as likely to create policies to the benefit of their wallet, especially when they do not comprehend a topic.
flattone 6y ago
we already have cameras everywhere, you cant participate in society without signing up for and along with someone else massive system of bullshit. We cant even review utility bills without installing an app or visiting a website and starting an account. 'That future' we are in the middle of it.
h0l0cube 6y ago
> Nobody will ever let thought intrusion come to pass. Human rights will take steps backwards if it's necessary to keep an economic advantage. If thought intrusion has any productivity value, a less scrupulous nations will take that advantage, and deregulation by more scrupulous nations will be re-framed as gaining necessary competitive advantage, and will be demanded by unemployed citizens and business minds alike.
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taneq 6y ago

> The evil forces haven't even managed to get an encryption-backdoor law passed They've managed to do a few other pretty evil things recently, though. And they're going to keep trying until they get it through. They only have to win once, and then no government is going to voluntarily give up the extra power and control.

gpm 6y ago

On the flip side, everyone is now walking around with an internet connected camera, microphone, and location tracker in their pocket. Most of us are livestreaming their location to cloud services. I don't think this will come to pass as a mandate from on high, but it might come to pass as a practical device that everyone needs to function in modern society.

kohtatsu 6y ago

Unless they don't know it's coming to pass :o Or you're in an authoritarian regime where not having an implant may result in longer lines, less financing options, no plane access, harder train access, and direct pressure on/from friends. I'm not worried about those things happening in Canada tomorrow though.

kodah 6y ago

Most tech companies are in-line with some form of abuse. Whether it's creating campaigns against reasonable salary increases to installing highly intuitive applications to track and monitor your activity as an employee. More simply put, things we'd give people felonies for tech companies (and others) get a pass. I could believe this dystopian future, especially as political forces continue to form stern camps whose only substantive difference is an opposing view to the other.

vinnymac 6y ago

I find it strange that you point out that policy makers do not comprehend these concepts, yet believe it will be voted out. They are just as likely to create policies to the benefit of their wallet, especially when they do not comprehend a topic.

flattone 6y ago

we already have cameras everywhere, you cant participate in society without signing up for and along with someone else massive system of bullshit. We cant even review utility bills without installing an app or visiting a website and starting an account. 'That future' we are in the middle of it.

h0l0cube 6y ago

> Nobody will ever let thought intrusion come to pass. Human rights will take steps backwards if it's necessary to keep an economic advantage. If thought intrusion has any productivity value, a less scrupulous nations will take that advantage, and deregulation by more scrupulous nations will be re-framed as gaining necessary competitive advantage, and will be demanded by unemployed citizens and business minds alike.

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