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That's putting your children in grave danger from all manner of criminals online.

elliekelly 6y ago
Grave danger? Of what? I suspect most of HN had free rein of the internet in their formative years. I’m sure I did a lot of stuff my parents wouldn’t have been thrilled about but I was never in grave danger (or any danger really) and I learned a ton. I’d be far more concerned with the potential lasting damage from a kid’s dumb social media posts than crime.
- tjr225 6y ago
  You can’t seriously compare the internet of even 10 years ago to the internet of today. You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. That content was available then, sure. It wasn’t blasted right at you though.
  - dagenix 6y ago
    When I was growing up, I had to walk uphill both going to and coming from school.
    - waste_monk 6y ago
      Luxury! When I was a boy we had to crawl for two hours each way through burning hot gravel to get to school, and if you were late they'd whip you with an old electrical cord.
  - ACow_Adonis 6y ago
    Errr, i mean, that's basically what shock sites/links were. It was basically literally blasted right at you and people trolled by getting them to click on it/expose people to it involuntarily whether you were looking for it or not. I'd name several of with their 'canonical names' off the top of my head if i didn't want to get banned...
    - tjr225 6y ago
      I tried to explain this in another comment; you don’t have to go to shock sites to see this anymore. In a main feed on Twitter Instagram or reddit you might see someone getting the pulp beaten out of them.
  - duckMuppet 6y ago
    They're far more likely to be enthralled with democratic groups like antifa or BLM and see how they slap around 70 year old white folks leaving the Republican convention, or how they should surround old ladies having a few drinks on a patio and scream and yell at them until they raise their fist and chant ~~black power~~ err i mean BLM. Or the best one, how anytime a black guy gets shot by the cops it's racism. Yeh you used to see some horrific shit on nowthatsfuckedup.com, but the kids watching almost anything today, even the news are ironically far more ignorant of science and reality. And what's more, their parents are just as dumb. But hey, men can be women now so everyone can pretty much say what they want and it's just as true as 2+2=5 or something.
  - HaloZero 6y ago
    We had Columbine in our era. Maybe it took a bit more effort but newsground.com was an easy site to play some screwed up games. It existed and could easily be found.
  - Barrin92 6y ago
    >You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. when I was growing up it wasn't just right-wing whackos glorying violence, it was Bill Gates himself dressed up in a trench coat advocating to 'clean up the neighbourhood' https://youtu.be/KN0K58EfJSg?t=120 https://youtu.be/KN0K58EfJSg?t=120 You may be underestimating the weirdness of the internet and the culture around it in the 90s, reddit looks harmless compared to what I saw when I was young when kids on the schoolyard were talking about rotten com
    - tjr225 6y ago
      You can’t seriously compare that video to a video of an actual person beating up another person?
  - 3131s 6y ago
    Rotten.com? Ogrish? I was around ten when I saw these and the first thing I encountered was a video of a man's head exploding on contact with a helicopter blade, and then I scrolled down and saw a prostitute that had been chopped up and placed in a suitcase. The world is a remarkably vile place and the internet is just a reflection of it.
    - grugagag 6y ago
      Even now I remember something I saw on ogrish a long long time ago and only when I think about it I feel the trauma comeing back. I wish I never had the curiosity in the first place.
    - tjr225 6y ago
      My point is that you actively had to seek that stuff out. Now you find it on all of the normalized channels; twitter, reddit, facebook, etc.
narag 6y ago
When my kid started playing Minecraft, he told a lot of funny stories about the chat and joking about how people asking for personal details were pedophiles. Ten years old kids are not stupid.
- sneak 6y ago
  Well, many 30 year old adults are stupid, so it stands to reason that at least some percentage of 10 year old kids are, too. I’m glad your child is bright and perceptive.
  - narag 6y ago
    Good point. You're right that we trusted him more when we saw that the trust was used wisely.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  Good job for teaching your kid to keep themselves safe!
  - narag 6y ago
    We taught him the basics. He learnt the details from other kids.
toomanybeersies 6y ago
Only if GP doesn't teach their child about the dangers of strangers online.

Grave danger? Of what? I suspect most of HN had free rein of the internet in their formative years. I’m sure I did a lot of stuff my parents wouldn’t have been thrilled about but I was never in grave danger (or any danger really) and I learned a ton. I’d be far more concerned with the potential lasting damage from a kid’s dumb social media posts than crime.

tjr225 6y ago
You can’t seriously compare the internet of even 10 years ago to the internet of today. You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. That content was available then, sure. It wasn’t blasted right at you though.
- dagenix 6y ago
  When I was growing up, I had to walk uphill both going to and coming from school.
  - waste_monk 6y ago
    Luxury! When I was a boy we had to crawl for two hours each way through burning hot gravel to get to school, and if you were late they'd whip you with an old electrical cord.
- ACow_Adonis 6y ago
  Errr, i mean, that's basically what shock sites/links were. It was basically literally blasted right at you and people trolled by getting them to click on it/expose people to it involuntarily whether you were looking for it or not. I'd name several of with their 'canonical names' off the top of my head if i didn't want to get banned...
  - tjr225 6y ago
    I tried to explain this in another comment; you don’t have to go to shock sites to see this anymore. In a main feed on Twitter Instagram or reddit you might see someone getting the pulp beaten out of them.
- duckMuppet 6y ago
  They're far more likely to be enthralled with democratic groups like antifa or BLM and see how they slap around 70 year old white folks leaving the Republican convention, or how they should surround old ladies having a few drinks on a patio and scream and yell at them until they raise their fist and chant ~~black power~~ err i mean BLM. Or the best one, how anytime a black guy gets shot by the cops it's racism. Yeh you used to see some horrific shit on nowthatsfuckedup.com, but the kids watching almost anything today, even the news are ironically far more ignorant of science and reality. And what's more, their parents are just as dumb. But hey, men can be women now so everyone can pretty much say what they want and it's just as true as 2+2=5 or something.
- HaloZero 6y ago
  We had Columbine in our era. Maybe it took a bit more effort but newsground.com was an easy site to play some screwed up games. It existed and could easily be found.
- Barrin92 6y ago
  >You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. when I was growing up it wasn't just right-wing whackos glorying violence, it was Bill Gates himself dressed up in a trench coat advocating to 'clean up the neighbourhood' https://youtu.be/KN0K58EfJSg?t=120 https://youtu.be/KN0K58EfJSg?t=120 You may be underestimating the weirdness of the internet and the culture around it in the 90s, reddit looks harmless compared to what I saw when I was young when kids on the schoolyard were talking about rotten com
  - tjr225 6y ago
    You can’t seriously compare that video to a video of an actual person beating up another person?
- 3131s 6y ago
  Rotten.com? Ogrish? I was around ten when I saw these and the first thing I encountered was a video of a man's head exploding on contact with a helicopter blade, and then I scrolled down and saw a prostitute that had been chopped up and placed in a suitcase. The world is a remarkably vile place and the internet is just a reflection of it.
  - grugagag 6y ago
    Even now I remember something I saw on ogrish a long long time ago and only when I think about it I feel the trauma comeing back. I wish I never had the curiosity in the first place.
  - tjr225 6y ago
    My point is that you actively had to seek that stuff out. Now you find it on all of the normalized channels; twitter, reddit, facebook, etc.

narag 6y ago

When my kid started playing Minecraft, he told a lot of funny stories about the chat and joking about how people asking for personal details were pedophiles. Ten years old kids are not stupid.

sneak 6y ago
Well, many 30 year old adults are stupid, so it stands to reason that at least some percentage of 10 year old kids are, too. I’m glad your child is bright and perceptive.
- narag 6y ago
  Good point. You're right that we trusted him more when we saw that the trust was used wisely.
aaomidi 6y ago
Good job for teaching your kid to keep themselves safe!
- narag 6y ago
  We taught him the basics. He learnt the details from other kids.

toomanybeersies 6y ago

Only if GP doesn't teach their child about the dangers of strangers online.