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Not a rhetoric question, I'm honestly curious: Has there been any case where an entity who complained about Apple's restrictions, turned out to genuinely be in

Not a rhetoric question, I'm honestly curious: Has there been any case where an entity who complained about Apple's restrictions, turned out to genuinely be in the favor of users, instead of just trying to make more money?

dudus 6y ago
These are not exclusives. You can be in favor of users and also happen to make more money.
- Razengan 6y ago
  “Instead of just about money” and asking for specific examples where the complainant actually did something that benefited end users.
asd282892892 6y ago
This is genuinely in favor of users and small business: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/14/facebook-says-apple-refused-to-waive-30percent-fee-on-new-feature.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/14/facebook-says-apple-refused-... For example, some of my friends run a dog care training business and they had to switch to using facebook streaming to make money. This 30% fee is something they are quite unhappy about because it runs in the thousands of dollars for their scenario.
- reaperducer 6y ago
  I think the OP's definition of "user" is the end user, meaning the person who sees the ad, not the company placing the ad. they had to switch to using facebook streaming to make money This I find hard to believe. The could easily have streamed on another service like YouTube, Zoom, or any of a dozen other solutions. Nobody "has" to switch to Facebook streaming.
- Razengan 6y ago
  > some of my friends I have my doubts about a new user account being specifically created to post an unverifiable anecdote. And ironically, that link is unreadable when using an ad blocker.
fsflover 6y ago
https://wp.puri.sm/posts/apple-is-right-about-privacy-but-wrong-about-freedom/ https://wp.puri.sm/posts/apple-is-right-about-privacy-but-wr...
mcintyre1994 6y ago
I doubt there’s anyone pouring their charitable money into suing Apple, so there will probably always be a profit motive.

dudus 6y ago

These are not exclusives. You can be in favor of users and also happen to make more money.

Razengan 6y ago
“Instead of just about money” and asking for specific examples where the complainant actually did something that benefited end users.

asd282892892 6y ago

This is genuinely in favor of users and small business: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/14/facebook-says-apple-refused-to-waive-30percent-fee-on-new-feature.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/14/facebook-says-apple-refused-... For example, some of my friends run a dog care training business and they had to switch to using facebook streaming to make money. This 30% fee is something they are quite unhappy about because it runs in the thousands of dollars for their scenario.

reaperducer 6y ago
I think the OP's definition of "user" is the end user, meaning the person who sees the ad, not the company placing the ad. they had to switch to using facebook streaming to make money This I find hard to believe. The could easily have streamed on another service like YouTube, Zoom, or any of a dozen other solutions. Nobody "has" to switch to Facebook streaming.
Razengan 6y ago
> some of my friends I have my doubts about a new user account being specifically created to post an unverifiable anecdote. And ironically, that link is unreadable when using an ad blocker.

fsflover 6y ago

https://wp.puri.sm/posts/apple-is-right-about-privacy-but-wrong-about-freedom/ https://wp.puri.sm/posts/apple-is-right-about-privacy-but-wr...

mcintyre1994 6y ago

I doubt there’s anyone pouring their charitable money into suing Apple, so there will probably always be a profit motive.