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This is the only correct response to the issue. Stop ripping up the redwoods for your driveways and power lines. Let the mountains be.

by rcpt 6y ago

opportune 6y ago
The problem is not only new construction but what to do, and what policies to have, about all the people and capital tied up in forested communities already. For example Paradise is actually a pretty decent-sized town basically in the forest; it should be obvious just looking at it on the satellite that it’s going to be affected by fires frequently. I doubt it’s politically tenable to have the policy become to just let places like that burn down or even to make them cut down the forests (which to them is the draw of living there). Just look at the Wikipedia page about what Paradise was going to do after the fire: focus on fire resistant construction and wider roads for evacuations. No measures from preventing the same thing from occurring again and again
- jeffbee 6y ago
  The only way a town like Paradise can exist is with a lot of state subsidies. The state should just flatly refuse to maintain SR-191.
  - Gibbon1 6y ago
    I read a long article on Paradise. The town was developed by a group of libertarian developers who took a lot of pride in working around California's regulations on subdivisions. California has rule that kicks in when a property is subdivided more than four times. They worked around that by subdividing the property 4 times, wait then do it again 4 times. Ended up with houses on lots that are too large for the owners to maintain. They don't have fire hydrants. And often there is only one exit. Paradise also is a bad location that is subject to dangerous wind conditions. One thing I noticed when looking at zoning regulations in Nevada county is they don't allow for subdivisions that are defensible. Defensible means clusters of houses on small lots. With fire hydrants. But you can't build that anymore.
    - jeffbee 6y ago
      There's a hell of a lot of welfare libertarians in rural norcal. See: State of Jefferson.

This is the only correct response to the issue. Stop ripping up the redwoods for your driveways and power lines. Let the mountains be.

by rcpt 6y ago

This is the only correct response to the issue. Stop ripping up the redwoods for your driveways and power lines. Let the mountains be.

opportune 6y ago

The problem is not only new construction but what to do, and what policies to have, about all the people and capital tied up in forested communities already. For example Paradise is actually a pretty decent-sized town basically in the forest; it should be obvious just looking at it on the satellite that it’s going to be affected by fires frequently. I doubt it’s politically tenable to have the policy become to just let places like that burn down or even to make them cut down the forests (which to them is the draw of living there). Just look at the Wikipedia page about what Paradise was going to do after the fire: focus on fire resistant construction and wider roads for evacuations. No measures from preventing the same thing from occurring again and again

jeffbee 6y ago
The only way a town like Paradise can exist is with a lot of state subsidies. The state should just flatly refuse to maintain SR-191.
- Gibbon1 6y ago
  I read a long article on Paradise. The town was developed by a group of libertarian developers who took a lot of pride in working around California's regulations on subdivisions. California has rule that kicks in when a property is subdivided more than four times. They worked around that by subdividing the property 4 times, wait then do it again 4 times. Ended up with houses on lots that are too large for the owners to maintain. They don't have fire hydrants. And often there is only one exit. Paradise also is a bad location that is subject to dangerous wind conditions. One thing I noticed when looking at zoning regulations in Nevada county is they don't allow for subdivisions that are defensible. Defensible means clusters of houses on small lots. With fire hydrants. But you can't build that anymore.
  - jeffbee 6y ago
    There's a hell of a lot of welfare libertarians in rural norcal. See: State of Jefferson.