4 ms·

Still, 30% is a huge improvement on what it was before the App Store. Publishers would take 60-80% in the old days.

sgc 6y ago
No it's not, because you could previously self publish apps for any major os and not be locked out by default from virtually all devices. I understand the benefits of an app store and walled garden (not that I want one for myself, but I understand), it's always been way too much nonetheless.
- dogweather 6y ago
  That's still the case for computers. But before the iOS app store, there was none.
kalleboo 6y ago
Before the App Store I sold software on my web page and the only fees were the 5% PayPal takes and $9/mo for dreamhost
- smabie 6y ago
  You can still do that.
  - foepys 6y ago
    You can't side load on iOS.
    - smabie 6y ago
      Yeah but you access the same exact markets as the old days, just maybe not the new ones.
    - baddox 6y ago
      What changed though? Before iOS and iPhones existed, you also couldn’t sideload on iOS, but no one was complaining. Apple created a new product essentially from scratch, and it has some limitations to how software can be distributed to it. Your car infotainment center and your fancy air purifier probably also don’t provide an easy way to install arbitrary software on them. But creating a new device that can’t do every conceivable task doesn’t change how you can sell other software online.
      - kalleboo 6y ago
        Mobile is now the main computing platform for many people around the world[0]. It’s no longer a toy for yuppies or a console device. It’s time the platform grew up from being as limited as a car infotainment system. [0] Today roughly one-in-five American adults are “smartphone-only” internet users https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/ https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/ Nearly three quarters of the world will use just their smartphones to access the internet by 2025 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/smartphones-72percent-of-people-will-use-only-mobile-for-internet-by-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/smartphones-72percent-of-peo...
- dogweather 6y ago
  For a mobile platform? If you mean for desktop, nothing has changed.

sgc 6y ago

No it's not, because you could previously self publish apps for any major os and not be locked out by default from virtually all devices. I understand the benefits of an app store and walled garden (not that I want one for myself, but I understand), it's always been way too much nonetheless.

dogweather 6y ago
That's still the case for computers. But before the iOS app store, there was none.

kalleboo 6y ago

Before the App Store I sold software on my web page and the only fees were the 5% PayPal takes and $9/mo for dreamhost

smabie 6y ago
You can still do that.
- foepys 6y ago
  You can't side load on iOS.
  - smabie 6y ago
    Yeah but you access the same exact markets as the old days, just maybe not the new ones.
  - baddox 6y ago
    What changed though? Before iOS and iPhones existed, you also couldn’t sideload on iOS, but no one was complaining. Apple created a new product essentially from scratch, and it has some limitations to how software can be distributed to it. Your car infotainment center and your fancy air purifier probably also don’t provide an easy way to install arbitrary software on them. But creating a new device that can’t do every conceivable task doesn’t change how you can sell other software online.
    - kalleboo 6y ago
      Mobile is now the main computing platform for many people around the world[0]. It’s no longer a toy for yuppies or a console device. It’s time the platform grew up from being as limited as a car infotainment system. [0] Today roughly one-in-five American adults are “smartphone-only” internet users https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/ https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/fact-sheet/mobile/ Nearly three quarters of the world will use just their smartphones to access the internet by 2025 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/smartphones-72percent-of-people-will-use-only-mobile-for-internet-by-2025.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/smartphones-72percent-of-peo...
dogweather 6y ago
For a mobile platform? If you mean for desktop, nothing has changed.