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Simple. Their ip addresses of their client/guest-servers are whitelisted in the SPF records. So anyone can impersonate them. Not 100% sure if that was the cas
by jbverschoor 6y ago
Simple. Their ip addresses of their client/guest-servers are whitelisted in the SPF records.
So anyone can impersonate them.
Not 100% sure if that was the case now, as I can't find the email anymore, but I've been getting them from both sendgrid and mailgun.
Mailgun's SPF (was at least):
v=spf1 include:spf1.mailgun.org include:spf2.mailgun.org include:_spf.google.com include:aspmx.pardot.com include:mail.zendesk.com include:spf.mailjet.com ~all
spf1.mailgun.org: v=spf1 ip4:104.130.122.0/23 ip4:146.20.112.0/26 ip4:141.193.32.0/23 ip4:161.38.192.0/20 ~all
v=spf1 ip4:209.61.151.0/24 ip4:166.78.68.0/22 ip4:198.61.254.0/23 ip4:192.237.158.0/23 ip4:23.253.182.0/23 ip4:104.130.96.0/28 ip4:146.20.113.0/24 ip4:146.20.191.0/24 ip4:159.135.224.0/20 ip4:69.72.32.0/20 ~all
In the mailgun case I received mails from for example 198.61.254.24 with from: invoice@mailgun.com
This is actually part of a bigger issue, where lots of people use the same email service to send out emails. In theory that should work with gmail or office365, but iirc gmail forces your from sometimes, and google+ms probably thought about this, right? ;)
- monadic2 6y agoI'm surprised they give clients access to their own DKIM.
- perennate 6y agoIt doesn't pass DKIM. But the fact that it's sent through Sendgrid's platform gives the e-mail credibility. Because no one expects Sendgrid to allow random customers to set e-mail (not necessarily envelope) from address to @sendgrid.com.
- monadic2 6y agoBased on my experience with sendgrid it's par for the course.