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You can get that "proper education" and be pretty secure financially by your late twenties. Yes, in theory our biological peak is somewhere between 27-30 or so,

by ip26 6y ago

You can get that "proper education" and be pretty secure financially by your late twenties. Yes, in theory our biological peak is somewhere between 27-30 or so, but it's not like everybody "made it" by thirteen in Seneca's time. You aren't even finished growing until your early twenties.

Balgair 6y ago
Roman coming of age rituals varied with time and social status. Still, most Roman males came 'of age' at ~25, with females considerably younger, sometimes as young as 14: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_age#Ancient_Rome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_age#Ancient_Rome Strangely, Seneca's wife, Pompeia Paulina, was ~26 years older than Seneca. I'm not super sure I have the sources right on this (Seneca the Younger vs. Seneca the Elder), but from what I could find it seems legitimate. As is typical with humans, it seems each person comes of age at their own pace, society be damned.
- simonebrunozzi 6y ago
  Incredible. I grew up in Italy, studied Latin, and never heard of TWO Senecas. The most famous one is the Younger Seneca. The Elder was simply his father. From wikipedia: Lucius Annaeus Seneca (54 BC – c. 39 AD), known as Seneca the Elder. Lucius Annaeus Seneca (c. 4 BC – AD 65),[1] also known as Seneca the Younger, is the one that married to Pompeia Paulina. Both born in today's Spain (Hispania, then a Roman province), but both educated in Rome. From the Wikipedia's page on Seneca the Younger [0]: In AD 65, Seneca was caught up in the aftermath of the Pisonian conspiracy, a plot to kill Nero. Although it is unlikely that Seneca was part of the conspiracy, Nero ordered him to kill himself. Seneca followed tradition by severing several veins in order to bleed to death, and his wife Pompeia Paulina attempted to share his fate. Also interesting about Seneca the Younger [1]: His life took a sharp turn in 41 A.D. once Claudius became the emperor as he exiled Seneca to the island of Corsica on the premises of supposed adultery with Julia Livilla, the emperor’s niece and Caligula’s sister. During his exile, he wrote a letter to his mother consoling her during his exile. Eight years later, in another twist, Agrippina, mother of future emperor Nero and wife of Claudius secured permission for Seneca to return and for him to become her son’s tutor and adviser. Nero later became one of the most notorious and tyrannical emperors in the history of the Roman Empire raising even more questions about Seneca’s character. Not surprisingly, Seneca’s wealth came largely while in service to Nero. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger#Death [1]: https://dailystoic.com/seneca/ https://dailystoic.com/seneca/

by ip26 6y ago

Balgair 6y ago

Roman coming of age rituals varied with time and social status. Still, most Roman males came 'of age' at ~25, with females considerably younger, sometimes as young as 14: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_age#Ancient_Rome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_age#Ancient_Rome Strangely, Seneca's wife, Pompeia Paulina, was ~26 years older than Seneca. I'm not super sure I have the sources right on this (Seneca the Younger vs. Seneca the Elder), but from what I could find it seems legitimate. As is typical with humans, it seems each person comes of age at their own pace, society be damned.

simonebrunozzi 6y ago
Incredible. I grew up in Italy, studied Latin, and never heard of TWO Senecas. The most famous one is the Younger Seneca. The Elder was simply his father. From wikipedia: Lucius Annaeus Seneca (54 BC – c. 39 AD), known as Seneca the Elder. Lucius Annaeus Seneca (c. 4 BC – AD 65),[1] also known as Seneca the Younger, is the one that married to Pompeia Paulina. Both born in today's Spain (Hispania, then a Roman province), but both educated in Rome. From the Wikipedia's page on Seneca the Younger [0]: In AD 65, Seneca was caught up in the aftermath of the Pisonian conspiracy, a plot to kill Nero. Although it is unlikely that Seneca was part of the conspiracy, Nero ordered him to kill himself. Seneca followed tradition by severing several veins in order to bleed to death, and his wife Pompeia Paulina attempted to share his fate. Also interesting about Seneca the Younger [1]: His life took a sharp turn in 41 A.D. once Claudius became the emperor as he exiled Seneca to the island of Corsica on the premises of supposed adultery with Julia Livilla, the emperor’s niece and Caligula’s sister. During his exile, he wrote a letter to his mother consoling her during his exile. Eight years later, in another twist, Agrippina, mother of future emperor Nero and wife of Claudius secured permission for Seneca to return and for him to become her son’s tutor and adviser. Nero later became one of the most notorious and tyrannical emperors in the history of the Roman Empire raising even more questions about Seneca’s character. Not surprisingly, Seneca’s wealth came largely while in service to Nero. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger#Death [1]: https://dailystoic.com/seneca/ https://dailystoic.com/seneca/