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How about not exceeding the speed limits.. most people on semi empty roads tend til exceed limits just a little bit. Might it not reduce accidents, and reduce

by jopsen 6y ago

How about not exceeding the speed limits.. most people on semi empty roads tend til exceed limits just a little bit. Might it not reduce accidents, and reduce the severity of accidents, hence, reducing expensive human injuries.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Speed limits (ignoring shenanigans like setting them low to increase revenue) and other traffic laws are fundamentally a measure of what society considers acceptable risk. If people are regularly exceeding the speed limit in certain conditions then the limit is too low for those conditions. Attempts to get drivers to act like robots and follow the rules or to replace them with AI that does just that are mostly than a waste of words because the fundamental hard problem is reaching a compromise on what is acceptable risk in any given situation.
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  There is also sometimes a disconnect between perceived risk by the driver and the actual risk. How we design roads can have a large effect on this. If people are regularly exceeding the speed limit, you designed your road wrong.
  - SilasX 6y ago
    Or you set the speed limit too low.
    - jopsen 6y ago
      Road design and speed limits supposedly goes hand in hand.
- dredds 6y ago
  Generally we drivers are very poor at judging acceptable risk, like iffy weather conditions where we will feel pressure to keep that annoying tail-gaiter from overtaking even thou they are driving as if the conditions were optimal. Why? Time constrains of appointments or just a need to get home quickly. Then a myriad of things; stress, lack of sleep, boredom, age, health, hunger, intoxicants. We don't parse any of these risks at all well given the real conditions, as evidenced by the road toll. Removing human foibles from everyday transport should make driving steadily safer just as automated systems have for flying or rail, etc. As for the liability, perhaps some portion of the reduction of insurance costs for damages to health and property can be funneled into a fund for mitigating wherever improvements are most needed across the sector generally including signage, road markings, code audits, sensor checks and so on. A small levy on the autonomous car's insurance should do the trick.
- jopsen 6y ago
  My point is that: It's common for reasonably smart individuals to exceed speed limits, despite the fact that: - the speed limit is 130 km/h - it only shortens the trip by 1-2 minutes - it's bad for the environment I suspect they many of my decisions aren't remotely rational.

by jopsen 6y ago

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

Speed limits (ignoring shenanigans like setting them low to increase revenue) and other traffic laws are fundamentally a measure of what society considers acceptable risk. If people are regularly exceeding the speed limit in certain conditions then the limit is too low for those conditions. Attempts to get drivers to act like robots and follow the rules or to replace them with AI that does just that are mostly than a waste of words because the fundamental hard problem is reaching a compromise on what is acceptable risk in any given situation.

amanaplanacanal 6y ago
There is also sometimes a disconnect between perceived risk by the driver and the actual risk. How we design roads can have a large effect on this. If people are regularly exceeding the speed limit, you designed your road wrong.
- SilasX 6y ago
  Or you set the speed limit too low.
  - jopsen 6y ago
    Road design and speed limits supposedly goes hand in hand.
dredds 6y ago
Generally we drivers are very poor at judging acceptable risk, like iffy weather conditions where we will feel pressure to keep that annoying tail-gaiter from overtaking even thou they are driving as if the conditions were optimal. Why? Time constrains of appointments or just a need to get home quickly. Then a myriad of things; stress, lack of sleep, boredom, age, health, hunger, intoxicants. We don't parse any of these risks at all well given the real conditions, as evidenced by the road toll. Removing human foibles from everyday transport should make driving steadily safer just as automated systems have for flying or rail, etc. As for the liability, perhaps some portion of the reduction of insurance costs for damages to health and property can be funneled into a fund for mitigating wherever improvements are most needed across the sector generally including signage, road markings, code audits, sensor checks and so on. A small levy on the autonomous car's insurance should do the trick.
jopsen 6y ago
My point is that: It's common for reasonably smart individuals to exceed speed limits, despite the fact that: - the speed limit is 130 km/h - it only shortens the trip by 1-2 minutes - it's bad for the environment I suspect they many of my decisions aren't remotely rational.