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I am glad Apple is actually managing and moderating their store as opposed to the ocean of fraudulent crapware on Google Play and to an even more extreme extend

I am glad Apple is actually managing and moderating their store as opposed to the ocean of fraudulent crapware on Google Play and to an even more extreme extend the Windows Store... I have never had a single person complain about what they can't run on an iOS device. The apps that aren't availabe are either crapware or if they are useful they only matter to 0.00025% of users who can gladly go get an Android instead.

posixplz 6y ago
Having a manufacturer-curated channel of apps is great. That channel should not come at the cost of consumer choice or competition.
ur-whale 6y ago
Freedom is indeed strong stuff and clearly not for everyone.
CogitoCogito 6y ago
> I have never had a single person complain about what they can't run on an iOS device. I personally hate that I cannot reasonably run software _I_ write for _my_ phone without having/using an Apple developer account. There now you've heard a complaint. I'm sure if you were to pay attention, you'd see this same complaint voiced quite often.
- Grustaf 6y ago
  Why is it a problem for you to have a developer account? Can't you deploy to your own phone with a free account these days?
  - CogitoCogito 6y ago
    Is it still the case that any app you deploy to your phone needs to be re-deployed every 7 days?
gridlockd 6y ago
As a developer and iOS user, I strongly disagree with this. Due to these restriction, iOS devices are toys to me, not tools to use for work. Yes, there's a lot of crap on the Play Store, but there's also a lot stuff that I don't like about Android that makes me not want to use it, much less gladly. There is a lot of prohibitions in the iOS guidelines that serve no purpose but Apple's business interest, such as running a "platform" app that has other apps embedded. Of course, if you're WeChat, you get to ignore that rule. To pass off all this as "security" or "curation" is just dishonest. There's a lot of crap on the App Store too, but that crap can't be as malicious because iOS has a better sandbox, not because Apple does the literally impossible task of scanning for hidden malicious behavior in its review process. Of course users are not complaining about having no access to apps that were never developed in the first place, because 80% of the revenue is on iOS and going Android-only makes little sense.

posixplz 6y ago

Having a manufacturer-curated channel of apps is great. That channel should not come at the cost of consumer choice or competition.

ur-whale 6y ago

Freedom is indeed strong stuff and clearly not for everyone.

CogitoCogito 6y ago

> I have never had a single person complain about what they can't run on an iOS device. I personally hate that I cannot reasonably run software _I_ write for _my_ phone without having/using an Apple developer account. There now you've heard a complaint. I'm sure if you were to pay attention, you'd see this same complaint voiced quite often.

Grustaf 6y ago
Why is it a problem for you to have a developer account? Can't you deploy to your own phone with a free account these days?
- CogitoCogito 6y ago
  Is it still the case that any app you deploy to your phone needs to be re-deployed every 7 days?

gridlockd 6y ago

As a developer and iOS user, I strongly disagree with this. Due to these restriction, iOS devices are toys to me, not tools to use for work. Yes, there's a lot of crap on the Play Store, but there's also a lot stuff that I don't like about Android that makes me not want to use it, much less gladly. There is a lot of prohibitions in the iOS guidelines that serve no purpose but Apple's business interest, such as running a "platform" app that has other apps embedded. Of course, if you're WeChat, you get to ignore that rule. To pass off all this as "security" or "curation" is just dishonest. There's a lot of crap on the App Store too, but that crap can't be as malicious because iOS has a better sandbox, not because Apple does the literally impossible task of scanning for hidden malicious behavior in its review process. Of course users are not complaining about having no access to apps that were never developed in the first place, because 80% of the revenue is on iOS and going Android-only makes little sense.