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~25% (straight line) of their customer base churns to a new iPhone every year [1]. Those customers will no longer be able to download Fortnite. [1] https://9t

~25% (straight line) of their customer base churns to a new iPhone every year [1]. Those customers will no longer be able to download Fortnite. [1] https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/08/four-year-smartphone-upgrades/ https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/08/four-year-smartphone-upgrades...

hu3 6y ago
They might now buy Android devices instead. It goes both ways.
- jay_kyburz 6y ago
  I thought it was also off Android right now.
  - CydeWeys 6y ago
    No, it's only off the Play Store. But you can still download and install it from elsewhere. iOS is unique in that you can only install apps through the store; there is no side-loading.
    - anticensor 6y ago
      Sideloading by developer access and by jailbreaking are things.
      - CydeWeys 6y ago
        Does the former require paying $99/yr to Apple? If so no thanks. And as for jailbreaking, the last time I jailbroke an iOS device was many years ago, and it never worked 100%. Every time I rebooted the damn thing it had to be connected to a computer to re-unlock it again. I don't know how the experience is now but it was terrible then. I haven't bought an Apple device since because I like the out-of-the-box ability to install whatever random stuff I want.
        speg 6y ago
        You don’t need to pay anything to develop on your own devices.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        OK so can I use this to install Fortnite? How? And does it mean I need a Mac computer in addition to my iPhone?
- jpollock 6y ago
  Which would be a huge indication that Fortnite is a key feature. However, it seems bubble colour is important. "Why'd You Push That Button - Why do iPhone users judge people with green text bubbles?" https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18624681/apple-imessage-android-blue-green-bubble-color-meaning-whyd-you-push-that-button-podcast https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18624681/apple-imessage-a...
  - zem 6y ago
    wow, that's an interesting dark pattern i hadn't encountered before!
    - sneak 6y ago
      That’s not what “dark pattern” means. Dark patterns are designed to cheat or deceive. The blue bubbles are quite useful because it lets you know if your message is being transmitted encrypted or not (green SMS bubbles mean effectively cleartext).
      - zem 6y ago
        I was referring specifically to the claim the podcast made that non-iphone messages were subtly made to look ugly or out of place
  - floatboth 6y ago
    That must be a US-only thing. In the rest of the world everyone uses WhatsApp/Telegram/Viber/etc (WeChat in China) and iMessage is not popular at all.
    - sgt 6y ago
      That's not always true though. Although WhatsApp is very popular here in South Africa, I use iMessage most of the time because most friends/colleagues/family have iPhones. And honestly I have switched off notifications on WhatsApp (I cannot recommend this highly enough!) so that's the only quick way to reach me. I am sure others do the same.

hu3 6y ago

They might now buy Android devices instead. It goes both ways.

jay_kyburz 6y ago
I thought it was also off Android right now.
- CydeWeys 6y ago
  No, it's only off the Play Store. But you can still download and install it from elsewhere. iOS is unique in that you can only install apps through the store; there is no side-loading.
  - anticensor 6y ago
    Sideloading by developer access and by jailbreaking are things.
    - CydeWeys 6y ago
      Does the former require paying $99/yr to Apple? If so no thanks. And as for jailbreaking, the last time I jailbroke an iOS device was many years ago, and it never worked 100%. Every time I rebooted the damn thing it had to be connected to a computer to re-unlock it again. I don't know how the experience is now but it was terrible then. I haven't bought an Apple device since because I like the out-of-the-box ability to install whatever random stuff I want.
      - speg 6y ago
        You don’t need to pay anything to develop on your own devices.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        OK so can I use this to install Fortnite? How? And does it mean I need a Mac computer in addition to my iPhone?
jpollock 6y ago
Which would be a huge indication that Fortnite is a key feature. However, it seems bubble colour is important. "Why'd You Push That Button - Why do iPhone users judge people with green text bubbles?" https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18624681/apple-imessage-android-blue-green-bubble-color-meaning-whyd-you-push-that-button-podcast https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18624681/apple-imessage-a...
- zem 6y ago
  wow, that's an interesting dark pattern i hadn't encountered before!
  - sneak 6y ago
    That’s not what “dark pattern” means. Dark patterns are designed to cheat or deceive. The blue bubbles are quite useful because it lets you know if your message is being transmitted encrypted or not (green SMS bubbles mean effectively cleartext).
    - zem 6y ago
      I was referring specifically to the claim the podcast made that non-iphone messages were subtly made to look ugly or out of place
- floatboth 6y ago
  That must be a US-only thing. In the rest of the world everyone uses WhatsApp/Telegram/Viber/etc (WeChat in China) and iMessage is not popular at all.
  - sgt 6y ago
    That's not always true though. Although WhatsApp is very popular here in South Africa, I use iMessage most of the time because most friends/colleagues/family have iPhones. And honestly I have switched off notifications on WhatsApp (I cannot recommend this highly enough!) so that's the only quick way to reach me. I am sure others do the same.