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I guess you are you saying that I and others should pay more money for our prescriptions? Do you have any idea how expensive many prescriptions are? People with

I guess you are you saying that I and others should pay more money for our prescriptions? Do you have any idea how expensive many prescriptions are? People with serious chronic illnesses already have a tough enough time with expenses in the U.S. and blaming them for lack of medical reform is disheartening to hear.

maxerickson 6y ago
No, they are saying that laws around drug pricing should be designed so that prices would be the similar to what GoodRX achieves, with no opportunity for profit left. Whether that is possible is of course an open question, but laws that impact drug pricing should encourage the source suppliers (manufacturers and wholesalers) to charge close to cost, not to invent prices that maximize revenue extraction from government programs and "discount" prices for other buyers.
- timbo1642 6y ago
  > No, they are saying that laws around drug pricing should be designed so that prices would be the similar to what GoodRX achieves, with no opportunity for profit left. So a pharmacy should make zero profit? This makes absolutely no sense. This will only create more fraud and we have a massive amount of it already. We should be going after insurance companies and drug companies. Not shutting down pharmacies and wholesalers.
mlthoughts2018 6y ago
> “ I guess you are you saying that I and others should pay more money for our prescriptions?” Yes, I am saying that. If you are interested in saving money and not being beholden to corporate interests and regulatory capture that cause you big costs and restrict you from medical care you may need, you should pay more money today and avoid helping GoodRX to have lobbying power. From a purely self-interest / money saving perspective, you should spend more and be happy that your extra spending today is buying you valuable units of GoodRX-goes-away.
- thrwn_frthr_awy 6y ago
  Are you willing to give me the difference in price? Probably not... I guess it isn’t a problem for you.
  - mlthoughts2018 6y ago
    If you are only willing to avoid GoodRX if someone else subsidizes a lower price for you, then you are acting against your own self-intetest. The point is that if you think paying a lower price now is good or necessary, you are hurting yourself and others. You should stop focusing on the lower up front price and take actions that don’t hurt yourself or others. Asking others to subsidize a lower price for you is a rhetorical deflection. It’s not connected to a greater point, it doesn’t prove anything, it doesn’t compromise the other person’s position if they are unwilling to subsidize your lower price, and it doesn’t address the issue - your desire to do anything for a lower price in the short term is directly antagonistic to your own self-interest and cost savings in the medium term. Finally, I am willing to pay towards that cost for you - please tax me more and provide universal medical care for all. Are you voting for single payer universal healthcare? Are you vocally supporting candidates who will enact that policy? If you want me to pay for your prescription prices to be lower, I will absolutely do it via taxation and universal healthcare.
    - arcticbull 6y ago
      > Finally, I am willing to pay towards that cost for you - please tax me more and provide universal medical care for all. Are you voting for single payer universal healthcare? Are you vocally supporting candidates who will enact that policy? If you want me to pay for your prescription prices to be lower, I will absolutely do it via taxation and universal healthcare. As am I.

maxerickson 6y ago

No, they are saying that laws around drug pricing should be designed so that prices would be the similar to what GoodRX achieves, with no opportunity for profit left. Whether that is possible is of course an open question, but laws that impact drug pricing should encourage the source suppliers (manufacturers and wholesalers) to charge close to cost, not to invent prices that maximize revenue extraction from government programs and "discount" prices for other buyers.

timbo1642 6y ago
> No, they are saying that laws around drug pricing should be designed so that prices would be the similar to what GoodRX achieves, with no opportunity for profit left. So a pharmacy should make zero profit? This makes absolutely no sense. This will only create more fraud and we have a massive amount of it already. We should be going after insurance companies and drug companies. Not shutting down pharmacies and wholesalers.

mlthoughts2018 6y ago

> “ I guess you are you saying that I and others should pay more money for our prescriptions?” Yes, I am saying that. If you are interested in saving money and not being beholden to corporate interests and regulatory capture that cause you big costs and restrict you from medical care you may need, you should pay more money today and avoid helping GoodRX to have lobbying power. From a purely self-interest / money saving perspective, you should spend more and be happy that your extra spending today is buying you valuable units of GoodRX-goes-away.

thrwn_frthr_awy 6y ago
Are you willing to give me the difference in price? Probably not... I guess it isn’t a problem for you.
- mlthoughts2018 6y ago
  If you are only willing to avoid GoodRX if someone else subsidizes a lower price for you, then you are acting against your own self-intetest. The point is that if you think paying a lower price now is good or necessary, you are hurting yourself and others. You should stop focusing on the lower up front price and take actions that don’t hurt yourself or others. Asking others to subsidize a lower price for you is a rhetorical deflection. It’s not connected to a greater point, it doesn’t prove anything, it doesn’t compromise the other person’s position if they are unwilling to subsidize your lower price, and it doesn’t address the issue - your desire to do anything for a lower price in the short term is directly antagonistic to your own self-interest and cost savings in the medium term. Finally, I am willing to pay towards that cost for you - please tax me more and provide universal medical care for all. Are you voting for single payer universal healthcare? Are you vocally supporting candidates who will enact that policy? If you want me to pay for your prescription prices to be lower, I will absolutely do it via taxation and universal healthcare.
  - arcticbull 6y ago
    > Finally, I am willing to pay towards that cost for you - please tax me more and provide universal medical care for all. Are you voting for single payer universal healthcare? Are you vocally supporting candidates who will enact that policy? If you want me to pay for your prescription prices to be lower, I will absolutely do it via taxation and universal healthcare. As am I.