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One of the sources for "raw info" that I follow is the No Agenda Podcast (co-hosted by former MTV VJ and co-inventor or podcasting Adam Curry and former tech co

by mikece 6y ago

One of the sources for "raw info" that I follow is the No Agenda Podcast (co-hosted by former MTV VJ and co-inventor or podcasting Adam Curry and former tech columnist John C. Dvorak). They position their podcast as "media deconstruction" and contrasting what the media say versus what is actually going on, and they slam Fox News every bit as much -- if not more -- as anyone else. I'll tell you what gives me hope though: podcasts like the Joe Rogan Show where Joe, who is very progressive, will talk with ANYONE in order to discuss and understand differences. And this is one of the biggest weakness of mass media these days: if it cannot be condensed to a sound bite it's ignored. A thriving democracy is supposed to be a place where differing points of view are debated vigorously but with mutual respect between the parties debating. Unfortunately, these days it seems to be a race to get to the point where you can dehumanize your opponent, and this is a fault of both the left and right. You ask who people on the other side think about you: I'm not a progressive but I don't think it's black and white either. I think we could probably agree on 80%+ of RELEVANT political issues... assuming we don't let a polarized media exaggerate what is actually relevant. We all want to be happy, we all want to be loved, we all want the next generation to prosper... I think that's universal.

abraxas 6y ago
If your source of information is Adam Curry then I just don't know what to tell you. On that note alone I'm pessimistic that we could have a meaningful conversation. That fella is so unhinged he is likely an undiagnosed schizophrenic. Also we are not likely to agree on 80% of the issues. At least not when weighted by relevance. People who make fun of the catastrophe that is climate change and the collapse of the ecosystems will never find a common ground with progressives. I'm sorry to tell you this but the modern conservative movements have taken a divorce from reality and dwell in an alternative reality that only exists in their minds. I just can't see a common ground to launch from. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.
alphaomegacode 6y ago
Not sure how you get that Joe Rogan is a progressive? He's probably more libertarian than progressive. He was quite open about his support for Ron Paul in the Obama-Romney election and then went for Gary Johnson in 2016. When Sen Sanders lost the nomination, he was quite open about saying he would vote for Trump over Biden. He's very good friends with Alex Jones (of Sandy Hook denial infamy) and has hosted numerous other rightwing guests with a great degree of empathy for some of their positions. Add to that his thoughts that perhaps "the Man" has had some grand conspiracies at work (e.g. him wondering if we really did land on the moon) and he's probably more identifiable as a liberal libertarian. He definitely has a pleasant voice and can engage in conversations but I'm not sure how much some of the above-mentioned positions align with the majority of progressives.

by mikece 6y ago

abraxas 6y ago

If your source of information is Adam Curry then I just don't know what to tell you. On that note alone I'm pessimistic that we could have a meaningful conversation. That fella is so unhinged he is likely an undiagnosed schizophrenic. Also we are not likely to agree on 80% of the issues. At least not when weighted by relevance. People who make fun of the catastrophe that is climate change and the collapse of the ecosystems will never find a common ground with progressives. I'm sorry to tell you this but the modern conservative movements have taken a divorce from reality and dwell in an alternative reality that only exists in their minds. I just can't see a common ground to launch from. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.

alphaomegacode 6y ago

Not sure how you get that Joe Rogan is a progressive? He's probably more libertarian than progressive. He was quite open about his support for Ron Paul in the Obama-Romney election and then went for Gary Johnson in 2016. When Sen Sanders lost the nomination, he was quite open about saying he would vote for Trump over Biden. He's very good friends with Alex Jones (of Sandy Hook denial infamy) and has hosted numerous other rightwing guests with a great degree of empathy for some of their positions. Add to that his thoughts that perhaps "the Man" has had some grand conspiracies at work (e.g. him wondering if we really did land on the moon) and he's probably more identifiable as a liberal libertarian. He definitely has a pleasant voice and can engage in conversations but I'm not sure how much some of the above-mentioned positions align with the majority of progressives.