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> Tinder, Microsoft, Facebook, Spotify have all openly backed Epic Oh, it's going to be so much fun when Epic wins and Taylor Swift decides to apply the same l

> Tinder, Microsoft, Facebook, Spotify have all openly backed Epic Oh, it's going to be so much fun when Epic wins and Taylor Swift decides to apply the same legal reasoning to the cut she pays Spotify for her music…

AnthonyMouse 6y ago
Does Spotify control one of the two major mobile phone platforms and use that control to require all their users to use only their music service?
- threeseed 6y ago
  Does Spotify control one of the two major music platforms and use that control to require artists to use only their music service (via exclusives)? And can you explain how I am using Spotify on my iPhone if Apple is "forcing" users to only use Apple Music ?
  - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
    > Does Spotify control one of the two major music platforms and use that control to require artists to use only their music service (via exclusives)? Exclusives aren't mandatory. The artists get paid extra for that and can decline it if they want to. > And can you explain how I am using Spotify on my iPhone if Apple is "forcing" users to only use Apple Music ? The analogy to "their music service" is Apple requiring iPhone users to use exclusively their iOS app store.
Gwypaas 6y ago
The difference would be that the same iPhone has access to Taylor Swift through Spotify, Apple Music, Play Music (does that even exist anymore?) and so on. Put the app store on the same level of competition and level the playing field of Spotify vs Apple Music in regards to the 30% subscription fee.
- microtherion 6y ago
  There are multiple streaming services, but most people won't pay for multiple services, so there is a lock in effect. And Spotify has a higher market share in music streaming than Apple has in cell phones.
  - paxys 6y ago
    Switching my $10/month payment from Spotify to iTunes is negligible compared to replacing a $700+ smartphone (which is likely on a payment plan). And in the latter case I lose access to every single app I have paid for over a decade.
- colatkinson 6y ago
  Play Music recently got merged into Youtube Music (formerly Youtube Red). They kept all the features of Play, like uploading your own library, so honestly the least bad Google product death I've seen so far.
  - candiddevmike 6y ago
    You must have a wildly different experience with YouTube Music then me. This forced migration was the final tipping point to push me to Spotify. YouTube Music's UX is _horrendous_ compared to Google Play Music, and the pre-canned radio stations are almost completely missing.
  - heavyset_go 6y ago
    They killed the Google Music API, and the YouTube successor has no equivalent API.

AnthonyMouse 6y ago

Does Spotify control one of the two major mobile phone platforms and use that control to require all their users to use only their music service?

threeseed 6y ago
Does Spotify control one of the two major music platforms and use that control to require artists to use only their music service (via exclusives)? And can you explain how I am using Spotify on my iPhone if Apple is "forcing" users to only use Apple Music ?
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  > Does Spotify control one of the two major music platforms and use that control to require artists to use only their music service (via exclusives)? Exclusives aren't mandatory. The artists get paid extra for that and can decline it if they want to. > And can you explain how I am using Spotify on my iPhone if Apple is "forcing" users to only use Apple Music ? The analogy to "their music service" is Apple requiring iPhone users to use exclusively their iOS app store.

Gwypaas 6y ago

The difference would be that the same iPhone has access to Taylor Swift through Spotify, Apple Music, Play Music (does that even exist anymore?) and so on. Put the app store on the same level of competition and level the playing field of Spotify vs Apple Music in regards to the 30% subscription fee.

microtherion 6y ago
There are multiple streaming services, but most people won't pay for multiple services, so there is a lock in effect. And Spotify has a higher market share in music streaming than Apple has in cell phones.
- paxys 6y ago
  Switching my $10/month payment from Spotify to iTunes is negligible compared to replacing a $700+ smartphone (which is likely on a payment plan). And in the latter case I lose access to every single app I have paid for over a decade.
colatkinson 6y ago
Play Music recently got merged into Youtube Music (formerly Youtube Red). They kept all the features of Play, like uploading your own library, so honestly the least bad Google product death I've seen so far.
- candiddevmike 6y ago
  You must have a wildly different experience with YouTube Music then me. This forced migration was the final tipping point to push me to Spotify. YouTube Music's UX is _horrendous_ compared to Google Play Music, and the pre-canned radio stations are almost completely missing.
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  They killed the Google Music API, and the YouTube successor has no equivalent API.