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That's fine, Miguel. But it should be a choice. Apple's market share is large enough to have them forcibly unbundle their app store and OS businesses (like Micr

That's fine, Miguel. But it should be a choice. Apple's market share is large enough to have them forcibly unbundle their app store and OS businesses (like Microsoft and IE in the precambric era).

Jtsummers 6y ago
Is your position (that they should unbundle the App Store and OS) based on their market share or actual principles? As in, do you think that console platforms should also unbundle those things to make it easier (or possible in some cases) to run separate app stores and/or apps on them? Because, and maybe this is just me, I really don’t see what market share matters here. Certainly not as a comparison to MS of the 90s.
- 8note 6y ago
  I see an obvious benefit to having unbundled console stores -- if I could buy the game from steam, I could run the same game on whatever console I have Then. They'd have to compete on the quality of the console itself, rather than exclusives or moats based on sunk costs in owning copies of games
- sbazerque 6y ago
  Good question. I was thinking in terms of market share alone. If phone OSs were a reasonably fragmented market, you as a phone buyer could probably choose a phone that doesn't restrict what software you can run and still meet your other requirements (e.g. tight OS & hardware integration). Also, as a software maker no single phone OS company would have much leverage over you. But some of these things could also be argued on principle.
Hnrobert42 6y ago
Why must Apple unbundle? Is it just that they are large and vertically integrated? If you are against vertical integration, must they also be required to sell iPhones that can support other OSes? Must all devices support alternative OSes? What about other things? Should Lyft be required to support the ability to use their app with an independent marketplace? Personally, I am more worried about companies that spread horizontally, like Google, Facebook, and Amazon.

That's fine, Miguel. But it should be a choice. Apple's market share is large enough to have them forcibly unbundle their app store and OS businesses (like Microsoft and IE in the precambric era).

Jtsummers 6y ago

Is your position (that they should unbundle the App Store and OS) based on their market share or actual principles? As in, do you think that console platforms should also unbundle those things to make it easier (or possible in some cases) to run separate app stores and/or apps on them? Because, and maybe this is just me, I really don’t see what market share matters here. Certainly not as a comparison to MS of the 90s.

8note 6y ago
I see an obvious benefit to having unbundled console stores -- if I could buy the game from steam, I could run the same game on whatever console I have Then. They'd have to compete on the quality of the console itself, rather than exclusives or moats based on sunk costs in owning copies of games
sbazerque 6y ago
Good question. I was thinking in terms of market share alone. If phone OSs were a reasonably fragmented market, you as a phone buyer could probably choose a phone that doesn't restrict what software you can run and still meet your other requirements (e.g. tight OS & hardware integration). Also, as a software maker no single phone OS company would have much leverage over you. But some of these things could also be argued on principle.

Hnrobert42 6y ago

Why must Apple unbundle? Is it just that they are large and vertically integrated? If you are against vertical integration, must they also be required to sell iPhones that can support other OSes? Must all devices support alternative OSes? What about other things? Should Lyft be required to support the ability to use their app with an independent marketplace? Personally, I am more worried about companies that spread horizontally, like Google, Facebook, and Amazon.