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There was a good thread on reddit about this recently and I firmly agree with this comment about how useless "spin the dial" is: https://www.reddit.com/r/amate

by riffic 6y ago

There was a good thread on reddit about this recently and I firmly agree with this comment about how useless "spin the dial" is: https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/iatqth/a_lot_of_blatant_racism_on_my_local_repeater_is/g1rhoaw/ https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/iatqth/a_lot_... social ostracization and penalty has its time and place, and this is one of those occasions. Same reason cars have number plates.

jimhefferon 6y ago
I hear you, but the flip side is that this is a hobby. I did not get in it to get mad.
- riffic 6y ago
  not mad at all. My take is that radio is not an ephemeral medium. These transmissions can be slurped down by an SDR, recorded, stored, analyzed, tagged, fingerprinted, indexed, et cetera. By keying up you are effectively making a statement of public record. At the moment there isn't a financial incentive to perform this at any reasonable scale, but this doesn't mean that it can't be done at all.
  - monksy 6y ago
    This is a very extreme and authoritarian response to a very vocal minority. Who decides what isn't "compliant" with the rules you want to shame them for?
    - riffic 6y ago
      Just record it all and make it indexed/searchable. Not discriminating here, just want to make it easier to correlate statements to the public record with public call signs.
      - monksy 6y ago
        Got it, you want to make it all but the punishment towards suppression of speech. Mention about the independent country of Taiwan or the autonomy of Hong Kong on radio.. well you've enabled the punishment of said behavior on a very real level. (In this case that would be invoking the national security letters recently introduced) Is this really worth it for a few people with terrible opinions? My stance: Let people have stupid opinions, let them blow off steam, recognize that you don't agree with them, don't be their opinions.
        riffic 6y ago
        Again, you seem to think that radio is ephemeral. It's not, and there is no expectation of privacy or anonymity when you key up. Perhaps you misunderstand what amateur radio is about.
    - pcdoodle 6y ago
      For real...

by riffic 6y ago

jimhefferon 6y ago

I hear you, but the flip side is that this is a hobby. I did not get in it to get mad.

riffic 6y ago
not mad at all. My take is that radio is not an ephemeral medium. These transmissions can be slurped down by an SDR, recorded, stored, analyzed, tagged, fingerprinted, indexed, et cetera. By keying up you are effectively making a statement of public record. At the moment there isn't a financial incentive to perform this at any reasonable scale, but this doesn't mean that it can't be done at all.
- monksy 6y ago
  This is a very extreme and authoritarian response to a very vocal minority. Who decides what isn't "compliant" with the rules you want to shame them for?
  - riffic 6y ago
    Just record it all and make it indexed/searchable. Not discriminating here, just want to make it easier to correlate statements to the public record with public call signs.
    - monksy 6y ago
      Got it, you want to make it all but the punishment towards suppression of speech. Mention about the independent country of Taiwan or the autonomy of Hong Kong on radio.. well you've enabled the punishment of said behavior on a very real level. (In this case that would be invoking the national security letters recently introduced) Is this really worth it for a few people with terrible opinions? My stance: Let people have stupid opinions, let them blow off steam, recognize that you don't agree with them, don't be their opinions.
      - riffic 6y ago
        Again, you seem to think that radio is ephemeral. It's not, and there is no expectation of privacy or anonymity when you key up. Perhaps you misunderstand what amateur radio is about.
  - pcdoodle 6y ago
    For real...