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There’s quite a difference between what Japan tried to do in WW2 and China reclaiming territory that was stolen from it by colonial powers. The US is also mili

There’s quite a difference between what Japan tried to do in WW2 and China reclaiming territory that was stolen from it by colonial powers. The US is also militarily supreme and acting provocatively. Nobody wants a conflict between superpowers.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Taiwan was not stolen from China by colonial powers. You might have a point on Hong Kong, but not on Taiwan.
- bigpumpkin 6y ago
  Taiwan was ceded from China to Japan, becoming Japan's first overseas colony, as a result of the first Sino-Japanese war. [1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule?oldformat=true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule?old...
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    That's not why it's independent now. It's independent because after the war, it went back to the government of China, which was the Koumintang. When they lost the Chinese Civil War, they retreated to Taiwan. Hence their claim to still be the legitimate government of the mainland.
  - CogitoCogito 6y ago
    This is certainly true, but it's also true that Chinese colonized Taiwan as well. Taiwan has had a long history of outsiders coming in and taking over. At least today Taiwan's current inhabitants are in control of their own country, but unfortunately China wants to try to go in again. It seems Taiwan can never be left in peace.
chillacy 6y ago
"Reclaiming territory" is kind of a bullshit excuse though. I that actually made for moral justification, then just about everyone should be conquering each other right now. For instance, other people could reason that the current government in China is illegitimate and the Republic of China is currently exiled in Taiwan. If Taiwan were to annex China (hard to believe now but just for a thought experiment) then this would be "reclaiming territory". I also once heard a (very racist) Japanese man explain how Japan was the true inheritor of the Ming dynasty's traditions and so invading China was just "re-claiming territory" that was stolen by manchurians. I could go on but these are just narratives used to justify violence.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago

Taiwan was not stolen from China by colonial powers. You might have a point on Hong Kong, but not on Taiwan.

bigpumpkin 6y ago
Taiwan was ceded from China to Japan, becoming Japan's first overseas colony, as a result of the first Sino-Japanese war. [1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule?oldformat=true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule?old...
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  That's not why it's independent now. It's independent because after the war, it went back to the government of China, which was the Koumintang. When they lost the Chinese Civil War, they retreated to Taiwan. Hence their claim to still be the legitimate government of the mainland.
- CogitoCogito 6y ago
  This is certainly true, but it's also true that Chinese colonized Taiwan as well. Taiwan has had a long history of outsiders coming in and taking over. At least today Taiwan's current inhabitants are in control of their own country, but unfortunately China wants to try to go in again. It seems Taiwan can never be left in peace.

chillacy 6y ago

"Reclaiming territory" is kind of a bullshit excuse though. I that actually made for moral justification, then just about everyone should be conquering each other right now. For instance, other people could reason that the current government in China is illegitimate and the Republic of China is currently exiled in Taiwan. If Taiwan were to annex China (hard to believe now but just for a thought experiment) then this would be "reclaiming territory". I also once heard a (very racist) Japanese man explain how Japan was the true inheritor of the Ming dynasty's traditions and so invading China was just "re-claiming territory" that was stolen by manchurians. I could go on but these are just narratives used to justify violence.