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Working for a company that deals with security, I have definitely run into customers that would think I was crazy if I asked them to use anything other than Zoo

Working for a company that deals with security, I have definitely run into customers that would think I was crazy if I asked them to use anything other than Zoom or Webex. Some are even limited to webex only.

TeMPOraL 6y ago
It goes in many combinations. Where I work now, it's Teams internally and Webex externally, with Zoom being explicitly banned, with at least two strongly worded e-mails reminding us to make it double plus sure we don't have the Zoom client installed. At the same time, outside of work, I was videocalling people on Skype, and my wife had classes delivered via Zoom.
- zelphirkalt 6y ago
  Not sure what' worse, Zoom or Teams. Seems like "pick your poison". A coworker once looked at Teams console. I had logged over 700 errors. Often we cannot hear people, although their tech is completely fine. It's just Teams being bug ridden and excluding people.
  - nicoburns 6y ago
    From reports in my circles, Teams is definitely worse. Most people i know seem fine with Zoom, but Teams seems universally hated.
  - hirako2000 6y ago
    Seamless integration with office360, with that they can afford to have issues.
    - TeMPOraL 6y ago
      Not just that - in general, Zoom is just a videochat; Teams is an office productivity tool. It's pretty good at its function (I'm using it at work and I don't really have much to complain about, except the weird handling of code blocks in chat).
TuringNYC 6y ago
Really? If you want to one-click-add a Zoom meeting to your Google calendar, Zoom requires read history to your full Google Calendar (including all history!) That seems incredibly intrusive. How do corporations even allow access for this particular features?
- zelphirkalt 6y ago
  Most people in companies are not IT people or IT security people. The ones raising concerns are often only heard, when it is too late. How often have I heard silly arguments against safer tech like: "The people are not IT people, they want something simple!"
- kiwijamo 6y ago
  This is possibly so Zoom can show other Zoom meetings you have been invited to. This is a useful feature as it means I can directly join a Zoom meeting without having to go through the Calendar.
dahfizz 6y ago
What about Google meet? It has the same security regulations as the rest of their enterprise software.

TeMPOraL 6y ago

It goes in many combinations. Where I work now, it's Teams internally and Webex externally, with Zoom being explicitly banned, with at least two strongly worded e-mails reminding us to make it double plus sure we don't have the Zoom client installed. At the same time, outside of work, I was videocalling people on Skype, and my wife had classes delivered via Zoom.

zelphirkalt 6y ago
Not sure what' worse, Zoom or Teams. Seems like "pick your poison". A coworker once looked at Teams console. I had logged over 700 errors. Often we cannot hear people, although their tech is completely fine. It's just Teams being bug ridden and excluding people.
- nicoburns 6y ago
  From reports in my circles, Teams is definitely worse. Most people i know seem fine with Zoom, but Teams seems universally hated.
- hirako2000 6y ago
  Seamless integration with office360, with that they can afford to have issues.
  - TeMPOraL 6y ago
    Not just that - in general, Zoom is just a videochat; Teams is an office productivity tool. It's pretty good at its function (I'm using it at work and I don't really have much to complain about, except the weird handling of code blocks in chat).

TuringNYC 6y ago

Really? If you want to one-click-add a Zoom meeting to your Google calendar, Zoom requires read history to your full Google Calendar (including all history!) That seems incredibly intrusive. How do corporations even allow access for this particular features?

zelphirkalt 6y ago
Most people in companies are not IT people or IT security people. The ones raising concerns are often only heard, when it is too late. How often have I heard silly arguments against safer tech like: "The people are not IT people, they want something simple!"
kiwijamo 6y ago
This is possibly so Zoom can show other Zoom meetings you have been invited to. This is a useful feature as it means I can directly join a Zoom meeting without having to go through the Calendar.

dahfizz 6y ago

What about Google meet? It has the same security regulations as the rest of their enterprise software.