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That's precisely what they are doing. They don't care about hate speech. If they did, they wouldn't have Trump ads on the YouTube banner. This is justificati

by tsherr 6y ago

That's precisely what they are doing. They don't care about hate speech. If they did, they wouldn't have Trump ads on the YouTube banner. This is justification to get rid of apps they don't like.

djsumdog 6y ago
Not allowing a parties political ads would be clear favoritism in a political situation. You might not like Trump, but it's quite the jump to say republican ads are "hate speech." .. in fact that's quite literally weaponizing the word "hate speech" to censor political opinions you don't like.
- VLM 6y ago
  Which is the whole point of hate speech laws. Can't market censorship of one party, but who could ever oppose censoring hate... then redefine hate to be anything you'd like censored, and ... that's what we have now. Any time anyone complains about censorship, roll out the excuse of holocaust denial, regardless whats actually being censored.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    Yes it's why freedom of speech is a thing. Ideas are meant to compete and the power to decide which ideas are acceptable is an absolute power that completely corrupts a society.
- betterunix2 6y ago
  > it's quite the jump to say republican ads are "hate speech." It is not a jump when they have used Nazi symbols in their campaign ads, promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories in their campaign ads, made transparently racist statements about their opponents, etc. It is not that "hate speech" is being weaponized to censor political position (the Republican party is not even promoting a specific policy agency in this election cycle), but rather that the term "censorship" is being weaponized to legitimize the extremist ideologies of domestic terrorist groups (classified as such by the FBI). To put it another way, if one of your coworkers was carrying on about how wealthy Jews were conspiring to spread civil unrest as part of a broad plot to destroy the United States, you would call it "hate speech" and you would be right to report them to HR. Yet that is just one of the many extremist conspiracy theories the Republican party has promoted in this election cycle, which follows the previous two cycles that featured similar antisemitism and other expressions of racism. Some Republican politicians have publicly stated that George Floyd was killed in order to start a race war in America, which only a few years ago is a statement that you would have only found on a website like "the daily stormer." The current Republican president has endorsed a candidate who said Muslims marry their siblings, and another candidate who said Muslims are a cancer on humanity and should be forbidden from holding office. None of that is "political opinion," it is extremist ideology that is on par with the kind of things that ISIS claimed about the Yazidis.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    Trump just negotiated a peace deal between Israel and UAE and the tired old Nazi trope is still being paraded out. Trump's son in law is Jewish. Your ignorance is astounding, but not surprising given the level of propaganda that's out there today. Conservatives are regularly attacked, marginalized, deplatformed, intimidated, shot at, and baselessly called all sorts of things when they pretty much just stand for family, God, and loyalty to the country and ideals of individual freedom. There are over 100 million Americans that identify as conservative and you are spewing hate speech about them right now. You've flattened an extremely large diverse group of individuals into your caricature viewpoint. I recommend you apply some empathy and go and try to learn from them. Ask them why they think the way they do. It might surprise you.
    - joshuamorton 6y ago
      > Trump just negotiated a peace deal between Israel and UAE There are lots of Christians who favor Israel but ultimately hold anti-Jewish opinions. This is weird, yes, but support of Israel should not be mistaken for support of Jews (the reverse is also, but only incidentally) true. > Trump's son in law is Jewish. So were Emil Maurice and Erhard Milch, at least according to German law. Didn't stop Hitler and Goering from making exceptions for them. I have quite a few conservative friends. Most of them don't support Trump, because Trump isn't a conservative. He doesn't stand for God or individual freedom, nor does he stand for loyalty to the country. Don't conflate conservatives and Trump supporters. They're not the same thing, and trying to present a bait and switch between classical conservatism and Trumpism is a bad faith argument. This is why you see so many conservative politicians that are no longer in office supporting Biden over Trump. Because Trump doesn't extoll conservative values. Instead he represents a populist and proto-fascist wing with more than a couple white supremacist tendencies.
      - chrisco255 6y ago
        I travel all over the country. And I'm from a highly conservative area in Florida. Trump has 95% support in the Republican party. He's got tremendous support and enthusiasm. Trump isn't racist at all. He was friends with Michael Jackson, Jesse Jackson, Whitney Houston, etc. He actively tried to help Whitney from overdosing (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mike-love-to-trump-you-tried-your-best-to-help-whitney-houston-736385/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mike-love-to-t...). He calls as many victim's family members as he can, regardless of race. He calls every fallen soldier's family, regardless of their race or creed. He just pardoned a black woman who was put away for a non violent drug crime in the 90s. He signed criminal justice reform established opportunity zones in poor neighborhoods to encourage business investment. He supports school choice to help poor communities who are stuck with broken schools. He's got 11 members of his cabinet who are Jewish (Mnuchin, Friedman, etc). He is pulling the troops out of Afghanistan: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/us-troops-afghanistan/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/us-troops-afghanista... There are more black Republicans running for office in 2020 than in 100 years. Trump has endorsed most of them, if not all of them. Your tired talking points are just a symptom of a coordinated hit job and misinformation campaign.

by tsherr 6y ago

That's precisely what they are doing. They don't care about hate speech. If they did, they wouldn't have Trump ads on the YouTube banner. This is justification to get rid of apps they don't like.

djsumdog 6y ago

Not allowing a parties political ads would be clear favoritism in a political situation. You might not like Trump, but it's quite the jump to say republican ads are "hate speech." .. in fact that's quite literally weaponizing the word "hate speech" to censor political opinions you don't like.

VLM 6y ago
Which is the whole point of hate speech laws. Can't market censorship of one party, but who could ever oppose censoring hate... then redefine hate to be anything you'd like censored, and ... that's what we have now. Any time anyone complains about censorship, roll out the excuse of holocaust denial, regardless whats actually being censored.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Yes it's why freedom of speech is a thing. Ideas are meant to compete and the power to decide which ideas are acceptable is an absolute power that completely corrupts a society.
betterunix2 6y ago
> it's quite the jump to say republican ads are "hate speech." It is not a jump when they have used Nazi symbols in their campaign ads, promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories in their campaign ads, made transparently racist statements about their opponents, etc. It is not that "hate speech" is being weaponized to censor political position (the Republican party is not even promoting a specific policy agency in this election cycle), but rather that the term "censorship" is being weaponized to legitimize the extremist ideologies of domestic terrorist groups (classified as such by the FBI). To put it another way, if one of your coworkers was carrying on about how wealthy Jews were conspiring to spread civil unrest as part of a broad plot to destroy the United States, you would call it "hate speech" and you would be right to report them to HR. Yet that is just one of the many extremist conspiracy theories the Republican party has promoted in this election cycle, which follows the previous two cycles that featured similar antisemitism and other expressions of racism. Some Republican politicians have publicly stated that George Floyd was killed in order to start a race war in America, which only a few years ago is a statement that you would have only found on a website like "the daily stormer." The current Republican president has endorsed a candidate who said Muslims marry their siblings, and another candidate who said Muslims are a cancer on humanity and should be forbidden from holding office. None of that is "political opinion," it is extremist ideology that is on par with the kind of things that ISIS claimed about the Yazidis.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Trump just negotiated a peace deal between Israel and UAE and the tired old Nazi trope is still being paraded out. Trump's son in law is Jewish. Your ignorance is astounding, but not surprising given the level of propaganda that's out there today. Conservatives are regularly attacked, marginalized, deplatformed, intimidated, shot at, and baselessly called all sorts of things when they pretty much just stand for family, God, and loyalty to the country and ideals of individual freedom. There are over 100 million Americans that identify as conservative and you are spewing hate speech about them right now. You've flattened an extremely large diverse group of individuals into your caricature viewpoint. I recommend you apply some empathy and go and try to learn from them. Ask them why they think the way they do. It might surprise you.
  - joshuamorton 6y ago
    > Trump just negotiated a peace deal between Israel and UAE There are lots of Christians who favor Israel but ultimately hold anti-Jewish opinions. This is weird, yes, but support of Israel should not be mistaken for support of Jews (the reverse is also, but only incidentally) true. > Trump's son in law is Jewish. So were Emil Maurice and Erhard Milch, at least according to German law. Didn't stop Hitler and Goering from making exceptions for them. I have quite a few conservative friends. Most of them don't support Trump, because Trump isn't a conservative. He doesn't stand for God or individual freedom, nor does he stand for loyalty to the country. Don't conflate conservatives and Trump supporters. They're not the same thing, and trying to present a bait and switch between classical conservatism and Trumpism is a bad faith argument. This is why you see so many conservative politicians that are no longer in office supporting Biden over Trump. Because Trump doesn't extoll conservative values. Instead he represents a populist and proto-fascist wing with more than a couple white supremacist tendencies.
    - chrisco255 6y ago
      I travel all over the country. And I'm from a highly conservative area in Florida. Trump has 95% support in the Republican party. He's got tremendous support and enthusiasm. Trump isn't racist at all. He was friends with Michael Jackson, Jesse Jackson, Whitney Houston, etc. He actively tried to help Whitney from overdosing (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mike-love-to-trump-you-tried-your-best-to-help-whitney-houston-736385/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mike-love-to-t...). He calls as many victim's family members as he can, regardless of race. He calls every fallen soldier's family, regardless of their race or creed. He just pardoned a black woman who was put away for a non violent drug crime in the 90s. He signed criminal justice reform established opportunity zones in poor neighborhoods to encourage business investment. He supports school choice to help poor communities who are stuck with broken schools. He's got 11 members of his cabinet who are Jewish (Mnuchin, Friedman, etc). He is pulling the troops out of Afghanistan: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/us-troops-afghanistan/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/us-troops-afghanista... There are more black Republicans running for office in 2020 than in 100 years. Trump has endorsed most of them, if not all of them. Your tired talking points are just a symptom of a coordinated hit job and misinformation campaign.