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Insecurity. "I'm the manager, therefore you WILL do as I say!". These people can boss people around, but they don't know how to manage.

toomuchtodo 6y ago
Good management can’t be taught, it can only be learned through experience. Hence why MBAs used to require work experience or the concept of non commissioned officers in the military. You must experience the suck to learn how not to suck. With that said, you have to still make an effort to filter out people with no empathy or low emotional IQ from management roles. Having authority over another human being is serious business.
- wnevets 6y ago
  >With that said, you have to still make an effort to filter out people with no empathy or low emotional IQ from management roles. Having authority over another human being is serious business. yeah but their resume, they went to "insert super important college here"!
omginternets 6y ago
Or perhaps (also) toxic pressure from above?
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
  IME a good manager is an umbrella against the shit raining down from higher. I suppose they're not good so... yep. They folded.
  - arethuza 6y ago
    "There are three kinds of managers: the shit umbrella, the shit funnel and the shit fan."
  - ashtonkem 6y ago
    It’s also extremely rare to find an organization with middle managers that don’t reflect the culture of the organization as a whole. If the middle management is toxic and/or incompetent, it’s a good bet that all layers of management are similar.
thehappypm 6y ago
The exact opposite of good leadership, that is, leading through influence.
ashtonkem 6y ago
Micromanaging people is a lot of work, and it prevents both the IC and the manager from doing important tasks. Micromanagement either comes from managers not trusting their reports (this can have several causes), or from the manager feeling insecure and finding ways to project control or power over their charges.

toomuchtodo 6y ago

Good management can’t be taught, it can only be learned through experience. Hence why MBAs used to require work experience or the concept of non commissioned officers in the military. You must experience the suck to learn how not to suck. With that said, you have to still make an effort to filter out people with no empathy or low emotional IQ from management roles. Having authority over another human being is serious business.

wnevets 6y ago
>With that said, you have to still make an effort to filter out people with no empathy or low emotional IQ from management roles. Having authority over another human being is serious business. yeah but their resume, they went to "insert super important college here"!

omginternets 6y ago

Or perhaps (also) toxic pressure from above?

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
IME a good manager is an umbrella against the shit raining down from higher. I suppose they're not good so... yep. They folded.
- arethuza 6y ago
  "There are three kinds of managers: the shit umbrella, the shit funnel and the shit fan."
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  It’s also extremely rare to find an organization with middle managers that don’t reflect the culture of the organization as a whole. If the middle management is toxic and/or incompetent, it’s a good bet that all layers of management are similar.

thehappypm 6y ago

The exact opposite of good leadership, that is, leading through influence.

ashtonkem 6y ago

Micromanaging people is a lot of work, and it prevents both the IC and the manager from doing important tasks. Micromanagement either comes from managers not trusting their reports (this can have several causes), or from the manager feeling insecure and finding ways to project control or power over their charges.