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Isn't that why we have safe harbor laws to encourage platforms to self regulate and collaborate with law enforcement in exchange for not being sued for those vi

Isn't that why we have safe harbor laws to encourage platforms to self regulate and collaborate with law enforcement in exchange for not being sued for those violations ? Without those provisions no website could allow user created content, as they would instantly be sued to oblivion. (Standard disclaimer of working for Google)

kikokikokiko 6y ago
If Google wants to be viewed as a safe harbor, so Google should behave as one and stop deciding what is "hateful". What you/Google/government consider hateful can be what I or the people in Belarus consider the truth. This trend of "censorship for your own good" needs to stop.
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- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  I believe all platforms do moderation of some sort. It sounds like what you are proposing is that nobody be allowed to do any moderation. How do you think that would work?
  - kikokikokiko 6y ago
    It would work as the internet is supposed to work. Like it worked about until 2015. Slander and libel is punishable under law. This is the way to punish lies and excesses. For the rest, lets just talk, freely, and let the best ideas win.
  - RonanTheGrey 6y ago
    The only moderate for removal of illegal content. The rest is up to the users.
notyourday 6y ago
> Isn't that why we have safe harbor laws to encourage platforms to self regulate and collaborate with law enforcement in exchange for not being sued for those violations ? > Without those provisions no website could allow user created content, as they would instantly be sued to oblivion. I want to make it clear that I do not have a problem with a safe harbor what so ever. If Google wants to prevent its users who ask it from being able to access some portion of internet, Google absolutely can do that. That portion of the internet should not be able to go after Google for acting on behalf of the users. What Google is doing is preventing users that did not ask for that from being able to access that portion of the internet. It is akin to Verizon deciding "that content is bad so we are going to block it in our pipe". If Google wants to do that, then fine it is providing the "clean internet experience" and it should absolutely be punished when it fails at doing that (hosting child porn)

kikokikokiko 6y ago

If Google wants to be viewed as a safe harbor, so Google should behave as one and stop deciding what is "hateful". What you/Google/government consider hateful can be what I or the people in Belarus consider the truth. This trend of "censorship for your own good" needs to stop.

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amanaplanacanal 6y ago
I believe all platforms do moderation of some sort. It sounds like what you are proposing is that nobody be allowed to do any moderation. How do you think that would work?
- kikokikokiko 6y ago
  It would work as the internet is supposed to work. Like it worked about until 2015. Slander and libel is punishable under law. This is the way to punish lies and excesses. For the rest, lets just talk, freely, and let the best ideas win.
- RonanTheGrey 6y ago
  The only moderate for removal of illegal content. The rest is up to the users.

notyourday 6y ago

> Isn't that why we have safe harbor laws to encourage platforms to self regulate and collaborate with law enforcement in exchange for not being sued for those violations ? > Without those provisions no website could allow user created content, as they would instantly be sued to oblivion. I want to make it clear that I do not have a problem with a safe harbor what so ever. If Google wants to prevent its users who ask it from being able to access some portion of internet, Google absolutely can do that. That portion of the internet should not be able to go after Google for acting on behalf of the users. What Google is doing is preventing users that did not ask for that from being able to access that portion of the internet. It is akin to Verizon deciding "that content is bad so we are going to block it in our pipe". If Google wants to do that, then fine it is providing the "clean internet experience" and it should absolutely be punished when it fails at doing that (hosting child porn)