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It needs to be regulated first by law makers to prevent companies applying arbitrary rules and discriminate clients based on subjective/someone's personal prefe

It needs to be regulated first by law makers to prevent companies applying arbitrary rules and discriminate clients based on subjective/someone's personal preferences. Countries like Austria and Germany have a law called Wiederbetätigungsgesetz which prevents public display of neonationalistic symbolism or speech. I think such a law would be a great starting point for a new law preventing hate speech and discrimination based on ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. We can see a shift to the alt-right in the USA at the moment, where reasonable people and certain ideas like universal healthcare are being labeled as extreme left.

moduspol 6y ago
We've survived 244 years as a country without government bureaucrats regulating what is and isn't "hate speech." I don't think we need it now.
BitwiseFool 6y ago
You'd need to repeal the First Admendment to do that.
jjcon 6y ago
I find it hilarious how people here are so proud that Germany is not nationalistic... one might even say their pride borders on... nationalism.
leotaku 6y ago
As an Austrian, while I have absolutely no sympathy for our local Neo-Nazi groups and far-right Parties, I would personally see the Widerbetätigungsgesetz to be repealed as soon as possible. While it might be true that most people who have been affected by this law were actually far-right bigots, it is still scary to me that my government is able and willing to prosecute based on opinion and speech. Maybe a tolerable law could be modelled using some concept of truth (eg. I think the Nazis were great vs. The Holocaust did not happen), but I am unsure how that could reasonably be applied when talking about contemporary affairs.
logicchains 6y ago
Apparently the far-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany became the third largest political party in 2017, winning 94 seats in the Bundestag. So doesn't look like those hate speech laws are very effective.

moduspol 6y ago

We've survived 244 years as a country without government bureaucrats regulating what is and isn't "hate speech." I don't think we need it now.

BitwiseFool 6y ago

You'd need to repeal the First Admendment to do that.

jjcon 6y ago

I find it hilarious how people here are so proud that Germany is not nationalistic... one might even say their pride borders on... nationalism.

leotaku 6y ago

As an Austrian, while I have absolutely no sympathy for our local Neo-Nazi groups and far-right Parties, I would personally see the Widerbetätigungsgesetz to be repealed as soon as possible. While it might be true that most people who have been affected by this law were actually far-right bigots, it is still scary to me that my government is able and willing to prosecute based on opinion and speech. Maybe a tolerable law could be modelled using some concept of truth (eg. I think the Nazis were great vs. The Holocaust did not happen), but I am unsure how that could reasonably be applied when talking about contemporary affairs.

logicchains 6y ago

Apparently the far-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany became the third largest political party in 2017, winning 94 seats in the Bundestag. So doesn't look like those hate speech laws are very effective.