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Half-OT: I'm using a MBP13"(2013) for years now and really like it, but it's not upgradable and it's getting cumbersome to do some more intesive things with it.

by k__ 6y ago

Half-OT: I'm using a MBP13"(2013) for years now and really like it, but it's not upgradable and it's getting cumbersome to do some more intesive things with it. Would you recommend buying a new MBP or getting a laptop?

benologist 6y ago
I find my dual-core 2013 to still be alright if I SSH into a six-core NUC to work. Visual Studio Code makes this super easy to do and almost exactly the same as working locally, it can be done without it too. I used a remote VM this way as well for about 9 months while wondering what to buy and on wired connection it was also pretty seamless. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh
- k__ 6y ago
  I use remote VMs too, but they aren't good for FinalCut Pro and Ableton Live.
  - benologist 6y ago
    Have you tried Thunderbolt accessories? You should be able to add NVMe storage and AMD graphics that might speed things up. I couldn't try this out because I have an nVidia eGPU, but using Apple's TB2-to-TB3 adaptor I can actually game quite acceptably in Bootcamp.
    - k__ 6y ago
      I will try that, thanks!
asutekku 6y ago
The 2019/2020 MBP is a solid one.
hashedout 6y ago
The ones with 10th gen Intel processors with the "new" keyboard are very good
se32point1 6y ago
> Would you recommend buying a new MBP or getting a laptop? A MacBook is a laptop, yes? What classifies a MacBook as not being a laptop? In terms of form factor, they are the same. There's nothing special. In fact, MacBooks can run Windows or Linux just like regular "laptops." As for a recommendation, I don't see why Macs are necessary. USB-C is a huge frustration to deal with (and this includes non-Macs, such as my XPS 13). I'd personally recommend a ThinkPad (which I've decided is going to be my next laptop), but I've never had the opportunity to use one that much. It's just that the keyboard seems much better and it has more options, and I really like the build quality.
- k__ 6y ago
  You don't think USB-C is the future?
  - se32point1 6y ago
    Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Right now, it's not very useful for me. Everything is still running on normal USB-A, so I really don't care for USB-C. I'm not about to just go out and replace all my existing and perfectly functional equipment when I don't need to. - Dongles are a nightmare as well. What if I forget mine when I'm travelling?
atty 6y ago
I have the MBP 16 from 2019 with the fixed keyboard, and both the hardware and software is solid. If you like macOS and are ok with the Apple premium, I’d say it’s the best laptop I’ve tried in the last 5 years (Just wish it didn’t have the damn Touch Bar).

by k__ 6y ago

benologist 6y ago

I find my dual-core 2013 to still be alright if I SSH into a six-core NUC to work. Visual Studio Code makes this super easy to do and almost exactly the same as working locally, it can be done without it too. I used a remote VM this way as well for about 9 months while wondering what to buy and on wired connection it was also pretty seamless. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh

k__ 6y ago
I use remote VMs too, but they aren't good for FinalCut Pro and Ableton Live.
- benologist 6y ago
  Have you tried Thunderbolt accessories? You should be able to add NVMe storage and AMD graphics that might speed things up. I couldn't try this out because I have an nVidia eGPU, but using Apple's TB2-to-TB3 adaptor I can actually game quite acceptably in Bootcamp.
  - k__ 6y ago
    I will try that, thanks!

asutekku 6y ago

The 2019/2020 MBP is a solid one.

hashedout 6y ago

The ones with 10th gen Intel processors with the "new" keyboard are very good

se32point1 6y ago

> Would you recommend buying a new MBP or getting a laptop? A MacBook is a laptop, yes? What classifies a MacBook as not being a laptop? In terms of form factor, they are the same. There's nothing special. In fact, MacBooks can run Windows or Linux just like regular "laptops." As for a recommendation, I don't see why Macs are necessary. USB-C is a huge frustration to deal with (and this includes non-Macs, such as my XPS 13). I'd personally recommend a ThinkPad (which I've decided is going to be my next laptop), but I've never had the opportunity to use one that much. It's just that the keyboard seems much better and it has more options, and I really like the build quality.

k__ 6y ago
You don't think USB-C is the future?
- se32point1 6y ago
  Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Right now, it's not very useful for me. Everything is still running on normal USB-A, so I really don't care for USB-C. I'm not about to just go out and replace all my existing and perfectly functional equipment when I don't need to. - Dongles are a nightmare as well. What if I forget mine when I'm travelling?

atty 6y ago

I have the MBP 16 from 2019 with the fixed keyboard, and both the hardware and software is solid. If you like macOS and are ok with the Apple premium, I’d say it’s the best laptop I’ve tried in the last 5 years (Just wish it didn’t have the damn Touch Bar).