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> Nonsense. End users have the power to configure their browsers just like they have the power to configure their DNS settings, their operating system and all t

> Nonsense. End users have the power to configure their browsers just like they have the power to configure their DNS settings, their operating system and all the rest. This power is illusory. If Google decides Chrome will no longer allow changing DNS providers, game over for 60% of internet users. Consider how it's no longer possible to block ads the way you want to in Chrome with manifest 3.

xg15 6y ago
True - but I think this is not the fault of DoH or IETF. On a technical level, the power stems from Google's ability to auto-update Chrome with whatever logic they see fit. On a social level, maybe Chrome's market share and the acceptance of users of that power. Even without DoH, Google could just as easily have decided to hardwire DNS for Chrome to 8.8.8.8 or to switch Chrome to their own home-grown proprietary name resolution protocol. They don't need a public standard for that.
ric2b 6y ago
> If Google decides Chrome will no longer allow changing DNS providers, game over for 60% of internet users. And if they do that for Android, or Microsoft does the same for Windows, game over for 90% of internet users. Banning DoH doesn't fix that.