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First complete dinosaur skeleton ever found has finally been studied in detail
- brzozowski 6y agoThe paper has some nice illustrations in case anyone is interested in reading about it in more detail: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlaa061 https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlaa06...
- neolog 6y agoI wonder why they're using illustrations instead of 3D models.
- AlotOfReading 6y agoThey probably had an illustrator already availabile and didn't want to make an unrealistic secondary model while fighting the modeling/rendering toolchain to do so.
- jazzyjackson 6y agoNot everybody's got a high res 3D scanner laying around
- Someone 6y agoDrawings can better show what the bones look like than photographs (https://thenode.biologists.com/illustrators-see-camera-cant/science-art/ https://thenode.biologists.com/illustrators-see-camera-cant/...) I would think that is true for “drawing vs 3D model”, too, but of course, 3D models could be used to check the interpretation by the illustrator.
- themodelplumber 6y agoWhoa, that map on page 2 reminds me of some 1990s tabletop RPGs. Right down to the naming style.
- cheerlessbog 6y agoThat paper is a beautiful thing: 86 pages full of hand stippled line drawings.
- Hokusai 6y agoUsed to many 2 pager papers, at 86 pages this paper feels more like a book than a paper.
- HenryKissinger 6y agoCan someone recommend (non-fiction) books about dinosaurs that are scientifically accurate and aimed at a college educated but non-expert audience?
- dilippkumar 6y agoNot a book, but I enjoyed this talk from The Royal Institute: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-jD7kQvyPs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-jD7kQvyPs
- toufka 6y ago"The Rise & Fall of the Dinosaurs" by Steve Brusatte is a great book that describes chronologically the beginning of dinosaurs through their end - by means of a young scientist telling about his various digs in his own (non-chronologically) experience. One thing I found important and unique about it was that it put the dinosaurs in the context of their geological environment. It's relatively up to date, easily accessible, teaches quite a bit, and is fun. Birds are dinosaurs...
- devnonymous 6y agoI just finished reading the first couple of volumes of Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe and have learned a lot about dinosaurs from that.
- Tagbert 6y agoNot a book, but there is also the excellent “PBS Eons” series on YouTube that has a lot of videos on dinosaurs.
- Melting_Harps 6y agoHey, that's all well and good; but can someone get some web development work for Alexandra? This her bio/profile: https://sci-hub.tw/alexandra https://sci-hub.tw/alexandra
- p1necone 6y agoThe waving gif link in the sci hub page posted by another commenter is excellent.
- amatecha 6y agoHeh, that gif is like the most human touch I've seen on a website in ages. Great stuff. :)
- codetrotter 6y agoWhich gif, and where?
- p1necone 6y agohttps://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlaa061 https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlaa06...
- codetrotter 6y agoI’m super confused. I don’t see any gifs or links to gifs on any of the pages of that PDF.
- cx4 6y agoIt doesn't show up on mobile. Try requesting desktop site if you're on mobile.
- joshxyz 6y agoLMFAO that's cool If you click the gif it redirects to a page where there's a bigger version, where if you that gif it becomes a video and she talks a bit. EDIT: The page it redirects to, https://sci-hub.tw/alexandra https://sci-hub.tw/alexandra
- shreyansj 6y agoHonest question - what has stopped us from bringing extinct dinosaurs back to life? Which variable in the equation is unsolved?
- simcop2387 6y agoDNA. There's no recoverable DNA to be discovered after that long, pretty much regardless of how it might have been preserved.
- eru 6y agoFor one, we don't have their DNA. See eg https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/could-scientists-bring-dinosaurs-back.html https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/could-scientists-bring-dinosa...
- TeMPOraL 6y agoOn top of what the article says, even if we had pristine dinosaur DNA, the way we clone things is through a living host - so whatever we'd clone would be half-dinosaur, half-cow, or half-whatever animal volunteered a womb/egg.
- devnonymous 6y agoI get what you're saying but it would more likely be half-Dino, half-chicken :-) As an aside though, wasn't there a place to reintroduce wooly mammoths? Wonder what happened to that.
- simcop2387 6y agoNot necessarily half. There'd definitely be some sharing but when we clone things we replace the genome in the egg that's used. That said it'll share mitochondrial and other things during development
- TheBigSalad 6y agoFrogs my bro
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- kace91 6y agoI wonder: since we have skeletons of living species, and the living animals themselves, couldn't we theoretically train a model to go from bones to pictures of the animal (or 3D models or whatever), and then apply it to dinosaur skeletons to see what comes up? Is there any way that could end up getting us somewhat realistic depictions?
- DougN7 6y agoWait, this is the first complete dinosaur skeleton ever found?! What have I been looking at in museums?
- SNACKeR99 6y agoPossibly the first+N complete skeleton ever found. The first was over 160 years ago.