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Effect of HCQ with or without Z-Pak on the mortality of Covid-19 patients

2 points by devy 6y ago

giardini 6y ago
Not a study or experiment but a "meta-study" where an attempt is made to merge data from many different experiments and form some conclusions. They started with 839 studies and, in the end, used data from only 29 of those studies to draw conclusions. Two obvious flaws: 1. "All included studies except one (Skipper et al.) were carried out on hospitalized patients". This means all patients got HCQ very late. But the recommended course for HCQ has always been to give it early at first symptoms and to never wait until hospitalization. In the "selected" experiments of this meta-study all patients were hospitalized prior to receiving HCQ, far too late for it to do it's magic. 2. "Mean (SD) age of participants was 62.1 +/- 8.5 years." The patients chosen were near elderly or elderly, those most likely to die from covid. So they set up a meta-study by cherry-picking experiments having populations of elderly patients who were provided HCQ treatment only after hospitalization. That is, choose the weakest patients who were treated at the last possible moment and include only those patients in your meta-study. Finally, at the end of their paper they state "Our results suggest that there is no need for further studies evaluating these molecules," In other words, thanks to this meta-study no further studies, not even the "golden standard" randomized controlled trials are required to "know" that HCQ doesn't work! The meta-study's authors see all, know all, and know best even though they haven't done a study or trial nor examined a single patient for this meta-study. The chutzpah of these authors is astonishing! But just as in the movie "Wizard of Oz" Dorothy is instructed to "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" we must ask just who IS the "man behind the curtain"? There is a hell of a lot of money (trillions projected) that wants to put the hush to HCQ so that big pharma can sell us an expensive vaccine! Remember what has happened in the recent past: "What Is Gilead's Role In The War On Hydroxychloroquine?" https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/what-gileads-role-war-hydroxychloroquine?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29 https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/what-gileads-role-war-hydr...

2 points by devy 6y ago

Not a study or experiment but a "meta-study" where an attempt is made to merge data from many different experiments and form some conclusions. They started with 839 studies and, in the end, used data from only 29 of those studies to draw conclusions. Two obvious flaws: 1. "All included studies except one (Skipper et al.) were carried out on hospitalized patients". This means all patients got HCQ very late. But the recommended course for HCQ has always been to give it early at first symptoms and to never wait until hospitalization. In the "selected" experiments of this meta-study all patients were hospitalized prior to receiving HCQ, far too late for it to do it's magic. 2. "Mean (SD) age of participants was 62.1 +/- 8.5 years." The patients chosen were near elderly or elderly, those most likely to die from covid. So they set up a meta-study by cherry-picking experiments having populations of elderly patients who were provided HCQ treatment only after hospitalization. That is, choose the weakest patients who were treated at the last possible moment and include only those patients in your meta-study. Finally, at the end of their paper they state "Our results suggest that there is no need for further studies evaluating these molecules," In other words, thanks to this meta-study no further studies, not even the "golden standard" randomized controlled trials are required to "know" that HCQ doesn't work! The meta-study's authors see all, know all, and know best even though they haven't done a study or trial nor examined a single patient for this meta-study. The chutzpah of these authors is astonishing! But just as in the movie "Wizard of Oz" Dorothy is instructed to "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" we must ask just who IS the "man behind the curtain"? There is a hell of a lot of money (trillions projected) that wants to put the hush to HCQ so that big pharma can sell us an expensive vaccine! Remember what has happened in the recent past: "What Is Gilead's Role In The War On Hydroxychloroquine?" https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/what-gileads-role-war-hydroxychloroquine?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29 https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/what-gileads-role-war-hydr...