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Same thing happens here btw on HN. Since I just said something against HN, I guarantee this comment will get downvoted into oblivion.

grogenaut 6y ago
generally downvoting happens when you talk about voting in the meta, which is against the rules and spirit.
- angry_octet 6y ago
  I can't talk about why I might have downvoted your comment.
  - angry_octet 6y ago
    The karma cycle of life. Humourless slashdot 4 eva.
- systemvoltage 6y ago
  I am very well aware of it and as I was writing it I was concious about the HN FAQ and rules of engagement. I am deliberately making an exception. Apparently, it didn't get downvoted but I've seen similar comments getting downvoted everytime I saw it without this disclaimer.
frequentnapper 6y ago
yeah i commented about documenting the prc supporters enabling this to happen and I got downvoted and flagged!
- versteegen 6y ago
  It's bad that certain groups (especially that one) will downvote/flag HN comments for political reasons, but I dare say the reason your comment got flagged was because of its emotional/aggressive tone, e.g. "so that each and every one of them can be prosecuted after China loses the third world war".
  - frequentnapper 6y ago
    if we're not allowed to be emotional about genocide, then I'm not sure we are allowed to be human at all.
    - versteegen 6y ago
      No one could disagree. My inane comment was just a distraction from the topic, sorry. I really only wanted to say that a sober suggestion could convince more people than a crudely aggressive one. Try again?
      - frequentnapper 6y ago
        Which part did you find aggressive? Prosecuting those responsible for aiding in the genocide of a people?
        versteegen 6y ago
        World war? Indiscriminate ire at Baidu execs? The horrible reality of humanity is that people follow orders they shouldn't, because you don't want to be the only person to say no, achieving nothing. It goes even further in the Stanford prison experiment. That's why autocratic regimes like Belarus's persist long after everyone knows they have no legitimacy. Also, (Re: "PRC supporters and enablers") I assume the vast majority of the people working in the Chinese government are decent people and have never had to do anything immoral.
        frequentnapper 6y ago
        Well then the horrible reality of humanity is that we seek to punish people who play a part in these atrocities in order to seek justice, till we can come up with a better alternative. Otherwise, let's not punish some newbie in a gang who was forced to murder as part of his forced initiation even though he didn't want to.
dwaltrip 6y ago
The exact same thing? There's no meaningful difference?
sieabahlpark 6y ago
First time? It's being going on for years.

grogenaut 6y ago

generally downvoting happens when you talk about voting in the meta, which is against the rules and spirit.

angry_octet 6y ago
I can't talk about why I might have downvoted your comment.
- angry_octet 6y ago
  The karma cycle of life. Humourless slashdot 4 eva.
systemvoltage 6y ago
I am very well aware of it and as I was writing it I was concious about the HN FAQ and rules of engagement. I am deliberately making an exception. Apparently, it didn't get downvoted but I've seen similar comments getting downvoted everytime I saw it without this disclaimer.

frequentnapper 6y ago

yeah i commented about documenting the prc supporters enabling this to happen and I got downvoted and flagged!

versteegen 6y ago
It's bad that certain groups (especially that one) will downvote/flag HN comments for political reasons, but I dare say the reason your comment got flagged was because of its emotional/aggressive tone, e.g. "so that each and every one of them can be prosecuted after China loses the third world war".
- frequentnapper 6y ago
  if we're not allowed to be emotional about genocide, then I'm not sure we are allowed to be human at all.
  - versteegen 6y ago
    No one could disagree. My inane comment was just a distraction from the topic, sorry. I really only wanted to say that a sober suggestion could convince more people than a crudely aggressive one. Try again?
    - frequentnapper 6y ago
      Which part did you find aggressive? Prosecuting those responsible for aiding in the genocide of a people?
      - versteegen 6y ago
        World war? Indiscriminate ire at Baidu execs? The horrible reality of humanity is that people follow orders they shouldn't, because you don't want to be the only person to say no, achieving nothing. It goes even further in the Stanford prison experiment. That's why autocratic regimes like Belarus's persist long after everyone knows they have no legitimacy. Also, (Re: "PRC supporters and enablers") I assume the vast majority of the people working in the Chinese government are decent people and have never had to do anything immoral.
        frequentnapper 6y ago
        Well then the horrible reality of humanity is that we seek to punish people who play a part in these atrocities in order to seek justice, till we can come up with a better alternative. Otherwise, let's not punish some newbie in a gang who was forced to murder as part of his forced initiation even though he didn't want to.

dwaltrip 6y ago

The exact same thing? There's no meaningful difference?

sieabahlpark 6y ago

First time? It's being going on for years.