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This looks great. Kudos to the authors! The available options are pretty lacking. I would have loved to have this the past few years. I recently shifted all m

This looks great. Kudos to the authors! The available options are pretty lacking. I would have loved to have this the past few years. I recently shifted all my IRC usage to Matrix with Element. There is a official IRC bridge. It will let you authenticate with IRC servers and join rooms, which will appear as regular Matrix rooms for you. On the IRC side you seem like a normal user as well. You get multi-device support, history, one less client to keep open, ... Steps: * Start a conversation with "@appservice-irc:matrix.org" * Send commands: !nick irc.freenode.net mynickname !storepass irc.freenode.net MYPW !join chat.freenode.net #someroom

hestefisk 6y ago
What plugin for Synapse do you use?
- ptman 6y ago
  Plugin? Bridge? https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Bridged-IRC-networks https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Bri...
Arnavion 6y ago
>On the IRC side you seem like a normal user as well. Until you accidentally start using Matrix features that don't translate well. Eg your matrix client will let you post large messages. On the IRC side this will generally appear as foo[m] send a long message: <https://matrix.org/some/long/url/uNiQuEcOdE> <foo[m]> How do I fix this? and now IRC users have to open a browser to answer your question. Also I've heard that if a Matrix user edits their message, the bridge resends the whole message to the IRC channel. I've not experienced Matrix users repeating themselves with tiny differences, so I can't confirm this. Thankfully this is rare, at least in the channels I hang out in. But in general I have a dim view of all these protocols that attempt to interop with IRC - they all have some form of impedance mismatch that causes jank. The worst one was probably gitter, where its users were used to posting kilobytes of code in markdown code fences because the browser UI would collapse it by default so it'd look fine, but their IRC bridge sent the whole thing line-by-line to all clients. And if the gitter user edited that code block, the bridge would send the whole code block down again. I disconnected from that thing as soon as it happened to me (The fact that its IRC impl was broken and required me to patch my client was also part of the reason.)
- p1necone 6y ago
  That matrix example seems like strictly worse and much more complicated to implement than the obvious naive solution of just splitting the big matrix message across multiple IRC messages.
  - edoceo 6y ago
    The bridge should be smart and use the pastebin referenced in the channel topic!
  - Polylactic_acid 6y ago
    And then you are automatically kicked for spam. Long messages are strongly disliked on irc and the typical workflow is you paste your text in to a pastebin and link it in a message which matrix does.
    - Arnavion 6y ago
      You type the prose part of your question in the channel. The thing that gets pastebin'd is code or logs if they're more than one line long. [1] The problem I was describing is that the Matrix user has no reason to follow this rule, because the Matrix client UI lets them type arbitrary long prose and code and logs in a single message and send that. And then the bridge has no choice but to put the whole thing in a pastebin. [1]: Unless the prose part of your question is itself an essay. But in that case the solution is not to put your question in a pastebin. It's to spend some time distilling your question down to remove all the fluff that made it an essay.
      - setr 6y ago
        Probably the correct thing is for matrix to realize that this is an IRC bridge, and warn the user this behavior will occur; they can fix it accordingly, and everyone is happy
        ptman 6y ago
monkey26 6y ago
I’ve been using a few Freenode channels via Matrix lately a while keeping my traditional irc clients open. A noticeable amount of messages never make it over to Matrix - as I collaborate with other developers in our irc, I don’t find these bridges very reliable unfortunately.
nhooyr 6y ago
I want to use them but about 5-7 years ago I created an account there with my username and forgot my password and they won't give me access even though I can verify pretty much everything on the account except for my pass and it certainly hasn't been logged into in years... :(

hestefisk 6y ago

What plugin for Synapse do you use?

ptman 6y ago
Plugin? Bridge? https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Bridged-IRC-networks https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Bri...

Arnavion 6y ago

>On the IRC side you seem like a normal user as well. Until you accidentally start using Matrix features that don't translate well. Eg your matrix client will let you post large messages. On the IRC side this will generally appear as foo[m] send a long message: <https://matrix.org/some/long/url/uNiQuEcOdE> <foo[m]> How do I fix this? and now IRC users have to open a browser to answer your question. Also I've heard that if a Matrix user edits their message, the bridge resends the whole message to the IRC channel. I've not experienced Matrix users repeating themselves with tiny differences, so I can't confirm this. Thankfully this is rare, at least in the channels I hang out in. But in general I have a dim view of all these protocols that attempt to interop with IRC - they all have some form of impedance mismatch that causes jank. The worst one was probably gitter, where its users were used to posting kilobytes of code in markdown code fences because the browser UI would collapse it by default so it'd look fine, but their IRC bridge sent the whole thing line-by-line to all clients. And if the gitter user edited that code block, the bridge would send the whole code block down again. I disconnected from that thing as soon as it happened to me (The fact that its IRC impl was broken and required me to patch my client was also part of the reason.)

p1necone 6y ago
That matrix example seems like strictly worse and much more complicated to implement than the obvious naive solution of just splitting the big matrix message across multiple IRC messages.
- edoceo 6y ago
  The bridge should be smart and use the pastebin referenced in the channel topic!
- Polylactic_acid 6y ago
  And then you are automatically kicked for spam. Long messages are strongly disliked on irc and the typical workflow is you paste your text in to a pastebin and link it in a message which matrix does.
  - Arnavion 6y ago
    You type the prose part of your question in the channel. The thing that gets pastebin'd is code or logs if they're more than one line long. [1] The problem I was describing is that the Matrix user has no reason to follow this rule, because the Matrix client UI lets them type arbitrary long prose and code and logs in a single message and send that. And then the bridge has no choice but to put the whole thing in a pastebin. [1]: Unless the prose part of your question is itself an essay. But in that case the solution is not to put your question in a pastebin. It's to spend some time distilling your question down to remove all the fluff that made it an essay.
    - setr 6y ago
      Probably the correct thing is for matrix to realize that this is an IRC bridge, and warn the user this behavior will occur; they can fix it accordingly, and everyone is happy
      - ptman 6y ago

monkey26 6y ago

I’ve been using a few Freenode channels via Matrix lately a while keeping my traditional irc clients open. A noticeable amount of messages never make it over to Matrix - as I collaborate with other developers in our irc, I don’t find these bridges very reliable unfortunately.

nhooyr 6y ago

I want to use them but about 5-7 years ago I created an account there with my username and forgot my password and they won't give me access even though I can verify pretty much everything on the account except for my pass and it certainly hasn't been logged into in years... :(