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It’s so strange to me to read these kind of comments, and to even see this article. I detest scroll bars. When I work on my windows machine I cannot stand seei

It’s so strange to me to read these kind of comments, and to even see this article. I detest scroll bars. When I work on my windows machine I cannot stand seeing them plastered all over the screen. It’s actually quite fascinating to read all these comments - it’s so weird to see people complaining about how they don’t know when a scroll is available. Just scroll and see! No negative feelings toward people who prefer them - it’s actually quite interesting to see the comments, I assumed everyone agreed they were better hidden until today! (Which, as a Mac user, is obviously part of the problem being expressed!)

iforgotpassword 6y ago
> how they don’t know when a scroll is available. Just scroll and see! Why should I try scrolling everywhere all the time instead of having the UI indicate to me that there is more content? Especially if it isn't clear by having a word or sentence cut of. Maybe the scroll area ends with a paragraph and it's not clear there is more. Why put aesthetics over usability? Some other comments here claim iPhone users develop some kind of swipe tic where they instinctively try to scroll around on every screen that opens. Would be a pretty sad testimony to this UI concept.
- mixmastamyk 6y ago
  Yep. "Why get my bearings at a glance when I could miss things and/or wonder and poll the machine about it instead?" :D There are subtler themes for scrollbars as well so that they don't have to stand out.
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  Why should you? Because some things are scrollable and it’s usually fairly obvious if there’s going to be more content. If it’s not clear to you, I totally get why you think that. But I don’t suffer the same issue. Why should I have to have scrolbars plastered all over the show to tell me that something is scrollable when I can check it myself in less than a second? I understand why people disagree - why is it so hard for you to understand that I disagree? Generally it feels like the pro scroll bar opinion is actually quite aggressive, needlessly so.

iforgotpassword 6y ago

> how they don’t know when a scroll is available. Just scroll and see! Why should I try scrolling everywhere all the time instead of having the UI indicate to me that there is more content? Especially if it isn't clear by having a word or sentence cut of. Maybe the scroll area ends with a paragraph and it's not clear there is more. Why put aesthetics over usability? Some other comments here claim iPhone users develop some kind of swipe tic where they instinctively try to scroll around on every screen that opens. Would be a pretty sad testimony to this UI concept.

mixmastamyk 6y ago
Yep. "Why get my bearings at a glance when I could miss things and/or wonder and poll the machine about it instead?" :D There are subtler themes for scrollbars as well so that they don't have to stand out.
breakfastduck 6y ago
Why should you? Because some things are scrollable and it’s usually fairly obvious if there’s going to be more content. If it’s not clear to you, I totally get why you think that. But I don’t suffer the same issue. Why should I have to have scrolbars plastered all over the show to tell me that something is scrollable when I can check it myself in less than a second? I understand why people disagree - why is it so hard for you to understand that I disagree? Generally it feels like the pro scroll bar opinion is actually quite aggressive, needlessly so.