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> Looking back from 2020, Go has succeeded in both ways: it is widely used both inside and outside Google, and its approaches to network concurrency and softwar

> Looking back from 2020, Go has succeeded in both ways: it is widely used both inside and outside Google, and its approaches to network concurrency and software engineering have had a noticeable effect on other languages and their tools. Don’t know much about go myself, but I’m interested in examples of this.

joshuamorton 6y ago
Arguably opinionated formatters like prettier and black are a response to gofmt.
- ses1984 6y ago
  Definitely but what about the impact of go's approach to network concurrency?
  - warent 6y ago
    For one example, I believe Crystal is inspired by Go in this respect. https://crystal-lang.org/ https://crystal-lang.org/
  - Scarbutt 6y ago
    asynchrony without async/await
- shadowgovt 6y ago
  Benefits of this for large system projects cannot be understated. The notion that there's a many-to-one mapping between allowed representations of the source code and a canonical representation is very smart because it enables bidirectional preferences; not only can the main source make assumptions about code format independent of individual user preferences, but individual users can have preferences independent of the main source; code that is in a canonical format is easier to apply custom formatting to. In addition, a canonical format makes it slightly easier to do plaintext search indexing, so you can get some of the benefits of having the code parsed into a full AST without needing to do that parsing.
harikb 6y ago
Green threads without explicit language syntax for yielding - called goroutines influenced similar features in Kotlin. Unfortunately Kotlin is bound to working inside JVM and had to introduce “suspend” keyword. This is a friendlier world to work in than explicit green threads using keywords like async/await in other languages (Dart, Rust, JS)
- bgorman 6y ago
  Clojure has goroutines on the JVM with core.async, no yield needed :)
  - Blackthorn 6y ago
    You have to explicitly call out your async blocks though -- even worse!
divs1210 6y ago
Clojure has core.async heavily inspired from go.

joshuamorton 6y ago

Arguably opinionated formatters like prettier and black are a response to gofmt.

ses1984 6y ago
Definitely but what about the impact of go's approach to network concurrency?
- warent 6y ago
  For one example, I believe Crystal is inspired by Go in this respect. https://crystal-lang.org/ https://crystal-lang.org/
- Scarbutt 6y ago
  asynchrony without async/await
shadowgovt 6y ago
Benefits of this for large system projects cannot be understated. The notion that there's a many-to-one mapping between allowed representations of the source code and a canonical representation is very smart because it enables bidirectional preferences; not only can the main source make assumptions about code format independent of individual user preferences, but individual users can have preferences independent of the main source; code that is in a canonical format is easier to apply custom formatting to. In addition, a canonical format makes it slightly easier to do plaintext search indexing, so you can get some of the benefits of having the code parsed into a full AST without needing to do that parsing.

harikb 6y ago

Green threads without explicit language syntax for yielding - called goroutines influenced similar features in Kotlin. Unfortunately Kotlin is bound to working inside JVM and had to introduce “suspend” keyword. This is a friendlier world to work in than explicit green threads using keywords like async/await in other languages (Dart, Rust, JS)

bgorman 6y ago
Clojure has goroutines on the JVM with core.async, no yield needed :)
- Blackthorn 6y ago
  You have to explicitly call out your async blocks though -- even worse!

divs1210 6y ago

Clojure has core.async heavily inspired from go.