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MS focusing on a GraphDB makes a lot of sense to me. Unlike document database or key=>value stores, GraphDBs aren't as mainstream yet (amongst the early adopter

by latch 16y ago

MS focusing on a GraphDB makes a lot of sense to me. Unlike document database or key=>value stores, GraphDBs aren't as mainstream yet (amongst the early adopters). Also, the typical GraphDB use case wouldn't compete with SQL Server. I think it's a problem space that we've only see the tip of the iceberg and Microsoft recognizes this. I also think this is one area where the MS stack doesn't scale well, hence why they'll address it. Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this research get packaged into SQL Server (or worse, Azure).

shadowfox 16y ago
> Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this research get packaged into SQL Server (or worse, Azure). Is there a reason for this? I would have thought that finding a practical application for research is actually a good thing?
- latch 16y ago
  The last time Microsoft did work in the NoSQL space was with Velocity - something akin to memcached. There was a lot of talk, a lot of hype, some CTPs..and then it got bundled into Azure where its potential became a shadow of what it seemed like it could be.
  - MichaelGG 16y ago
    Are you sure about this? Velocity got rolled into "AppFabric" and then Azure did something with the same name. But it's totally different. What you want is Windows Server AppFabric: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/ee695849 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/ee695849 Not to be confused with Windows Azure AppFabric. I'm not sure Velocity really included any interesting research or novel ideas, though.
snprbob86 16y ago
Microsoft Research != Microsoft MSR does a lot of very wild, interesting, off the wall, crazy things. They also do a lot of incredibly practical, pragmatic, evolutionary things. It's a large organization, filled with researchers of an incredible range of skills and interests. Any projects coming out of MSR should not be perceived as commitment or desired focus from Microsoft. Some projects simply inspire project teams, others grow into products, but most just die on the drawing board. That said, they are a gravely under appreciated research body, especially by both the open source community and the Microsoft rank and file.

by latch 16y ago

shadowfox 16y ago

> Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised to see this research get packaged into SQL Server (or worse, Azure). Is there a reason for this? I would have thought that finding a practical application for research is actually a good thing?

latch 16y ago
The last time Microsoft did work in the NoSQL space was with Velocity - something akin to memcached. There was a lot of talk, a lot of hype, some CTPs..and then it got bundled into Azure where its potential became a shadow of what it seemed like it could be.
- MichaelGG 16y ago
  Are you sure about this? Velocity got rolled into "AppFabric" and then Azure did something with the same name. But it's totally different. What you want is Windows Server AppFabric: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/ee695849 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/ee695849 Not to be confused with Windows Azure AppFabric. I'm not sure Velocity really included any interesting research or novel ideas, though.

snprbob86 16y ago

Microsoft Research != Microsoft MSR does a lot of very wild, interesting, off the wall, crazy things. They also do a lot of incredibly practical, pragmatic, evolutionary things. It's a large organization, filled with researchers of an incredible range of skills and interests. Any projects coming out of MSR should not be perceived as commitment or desired focus from Microsoft. Some projects simply inspire project teams, others grow into products, but most just die on the drawing board. That said, they are a gravely under appreciated research body, especially by both the open source community and the Microsoft rank and file.