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They're moving to a Rust Foundation with corporate sponsorship model. I think Rust will be fine, even Amazon expressed interest in sponsoring development.

Verdex 6y ago
Hear hear. System languages don't grow on trees. Rust has had a lot of non-trivial effort put into it and is very usable right now. Somebody is going to see the value just lying around and is going to pick up the financial slack. I see it as vaguely analogous to the current movie theater situation in the US. A lot of companies are seeing the end of their business, but all of those buildings are still sitting around waiting for someone to swoop in and buy them for fire sale prices.
- hu3 6y ago
  What's baffling to me is how scott's comment is [flagged] and [dead]. You trully can't have unconfortable opinions about Rust here. That's blatant censorship. Replying to you since I don't see a reply button to his comment.
  - steveklabnik 6y ago
    It's a factually incorrect comment: the entire Rust team was not fired from Mozilla. Does that mean it deserves to be flagged? I didn't flag it. But to be clear, while it does have some opinions, it is also plain incorrect in the facts it asserts. You can also find, many, many, many comments critical of Rust that are upvoted, let alone not flagged. I wouldn’t extrapolate from a single comment.
    - hu3 6y ago
      This is a discussion forum. Users will exaggerate and get facts wrong. Some ammount of lenience is expected before completely silencing their voice. With that said, where can one read about who is in Mozilla's Rust team? Is that information even public?
      - steveklabnik 6y ago
        Sure. As I said, I did not flag it. > Is that information even public? It is in a really weird space. However, a lot of the folks involved have chosen to talk about where they're at publicly, and Niko said he was not laid off. Also, for what it's worth: there's a charitable and uncharitable reading of the comment. Charitable reading: everyone who was at Mozilla who was paid to work on Rust was laid off. Non-charitable reading: everyone who was paid to work on Rust was at Mozilla, and was laid off. HN readers are supposed to follow the principle of charity, but it's quite possible that people either ignored that, or mis-understood the parent as saying the latter, in which case, it feels quite egregiously incorrect, rather than maybe slightly wrong.
        hu3 6y ago
        Thanks for keeping our conversation civil despite my tone.
  - gpm 6y ago
    I didn't flag it, but I almost did. The part about the rust team being fired was just incorrect, I downvoted it for that (burying incorrect information tends to avoid it spreading). Combined with ranting about a spec and a single reference implementation and it looks a hell of a lot more like like intentional flamebait than a misinformed user. They aren't related, are common points raised by known trolls on reddit, and are largely irrelevant. The most popular language in the world is probably python, which has no formal spec. If I had been in a slightly less charitable mood I would have flagged it for this.

Verdex 6y ago

Hear hear. System languages don't grow on trees. Rust has had a lot of non-trivial effort put into it and is very usable right now. Somebody is going to see the value just lying around and is going to pick up the financial slack. I see it as vaguely analogous to the current movie theater situation in the US. A lot of companies are seeing the end of their business, but all of those buildings are still sitting around waiting for someone to swoop in and buy them for fire sale prices.

hu3 6y ago
What's baffling to me is how scott's comment is [flagged] and [dead]. You trully can't have unconfortable opinions about Rust here. That's blatant censorship. Replying to you since I don't see a reply button to his comment.
- steveklabnik 6y ago
  It's a factually incorrect comment: the entire Rust team was not fired from Mozilla. Does that mean it deserves to be flagged? I didn't flag it. But to be clear, while it does have some opinions, it is also plain incorrect in the facts it asserts. You can also find, many, many, many comments critical of Rust that are upvoted, let alone not flagged. I wouldn’t extrapolate from a single comment.
  - hu3 6y ago
    This is a discussion forum. Users will exaggerate and get facts wrong. Some ammount of lenience is expected before completely silencing their voice. With that said, where can one read about who is in Mozilla's Rust team? Is that information even public?
    - steveklabnik 6y ago
      Sure. As I said, I did not flag it. > Is that information even public? It is in a really weird space. However, a lot of the folks involved have chosen to talk about where they're at publicly, and Niko said he was not laid off. Also, for what it's worth: there's a charitable and uncharitable reading of the comment. Charitable reading: everyone who was at Mozilla who was paid to work on Rust was laid off. Non-charitable reading: everyone who was paid to work on Rust was at Mozilla, and was laid off. HN readers are supposed to follow the principle of charity, but it's quite possible that people either ignored that, or mis-understood the parent as saying the latter, in which case, it feels quite egregiously incorrect, rather than maybe slightly wrong.
      - hu3 6y ago
        Thanks for keeping our conversation civil despite my tone.
- gpm 6y ago
  I didn't flag it, but I almost did. The part about the rust team being fired was just incorrect, I downvoted it for that (burying incorrect information tends to avoid it spreading). Combined with ranting about a spec and a single reference implementation and it looks a hell of a lot more like like intentional flamebait than a misinformed user. They aren't related, are common points raised by known trolls on reddit, and are largely irrelevant. The most popular language in the world is probably python, which has no formal spec. If I had been in a slightly less charitable mood I would have flagged it for this.