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> SpaceX is lowering satellite launch cost by 90% for anyone, Chinese or otherwise. Are you sure SpaceX is allowed to do business with China? As I understand

> SpaceX is lowering satellite launch cost by 90% for anyone, Chinese or otherwise. Are you sure SpaceX is allowed to do business with China? As I understand it NASA is forbidden by Congress from collaborating with China. Since NASA and SpaceX work together, might that limitation extent to SpaceX as well?

purple-again 6y ago
Spacex is subject to the same OFAC sanctions as every other US business. They are free to do business with most of China, however there are a number of exceptions usually having to do with the company participating in construction in the South China Sea. Doesn’t mean new sanctions can’t be levied and certainty China seems a likely target for future increased sanctions.
- liability 6y ago
  I wasn't thinking of OFAC, I was thinking of this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_exclusion_policy_of_NASA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_exclusion_policy_of_NA... If NASA is forbidden from working with organizations affiliated with China, it seems to me that SpaceX working with China might imperil their collaboration with NASA. Then again maybe not, I don't know the answer.
  - valuearb 6y ago
    Answer is no. SpaceX is not NASA.
    - liability 6y ago
      I know SpaceX is not NASA, that's not a valuable insight. Edit: It seems the situation is not nearly as clear as you believe: https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2020/08/26/report-spacexs-nasa-contracts-threatened-over-tesla-china-ties/ https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2020/08/2... Considering a less direct relationship with China already has some congressmen evidently perturbed, I think there is a decent chance SpaceX would refuse any contracts with China if for no other reason than to avoid provoking Congress further.
      - valuearb 6y ago
        Ok so the answer you want is yes. Congress people can say whatever they want for political reasons, and because SpaceX is vastly out performing their preferred old space contractors, they are motivated to attack SpaceX for the smallest most ludicrous reasons like this. But they also aren’t likely to pass any specific legislation or change what Elon does.
- ideals 6y ago
  No they cannot do business with Chinese governments, ITAR forbids this. There is already history here where a failed Chinese rocket crashed with a classified American payload and caused the whole satellite anything is now ITAR

purple-again 6y ago

Spacex is subject to the same OFAC sanctions as every other US business. They are free to do business with most of China, however there are a number of exceptions usually having to do with the company participating in construction in the South China Sea. Doesn’t mean new sanctions can’t be levied and certainty China seems a likely target for future increased sanctions.

liability 6y ago
I wasn't thinking of OFAC, I was thinking of this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_exclusion_policy_of_NASA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_exclusion_policy_of_NA... If NASA is forbidden from working with organizations affiliated with China, it seems to me that SpaceX working with China might imperil their collaboration with NASA. Then again maybe not, I don't know the answer.
- valuearb 6y ago
  Answer is no. SpaceX is not NASA.
  - liability 6y ago
    I know SpaceX is not NASA, that's not a valuable insight. Edit: It seems the situation is not nearly as clear as you believe: https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2020/08/26/report-spacexs-nasa-contracts-threatened-over-tesla-china-ties/ https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2020/08/2... Considering a less direct relationship with China already has some congressmen evidently perturbed, I think there is a decent chance SpaceX would refuse any contracts with China if for no other reason than to avoid provoking Congress further.
    - valuearb 6y ago
      Ok so the answer you want is yes. Congress people can say whatever they want for political reasons, and because SpaceX is vastly out performing their preferred old space contractors, they are motivated to attack SpaceX for the smallest most ludicrous reasons like this. But they also aren’t likely to pass any specific legislation or change what Elon does.
ideals 6y ago
No they cannot do business with Chinese governments, ITAR forbids this. There is already history here where a failed Chinese rocket crashed with a classified American payload and caused the whole satellite anything is now ITAR