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>Logistics: already done via gps receivers and low bandwidth spot style satcom Imagine being able to see live video, or AI enhanced video (movement detection,

>Logistics: already done via gps receivers and low bandwidth spot style satcom Imagine being able to see live video, or AI enhanced video (movement detection, etc). A lot more bandwidth will open up many areas for innovation. Imagine being able to get real-time data of patients being transported in planes or ground vehicles. >Real Time Weather: already done by satellites with the required features. But there is not much data about wind patterns, directions, barometric pressure, etc. Satellites can observe on a macro level. If you can combine that with micro level ground data, perhaps predictions for weather would be more accurate. >Real Time Video: again, there's no way you're getting animal scale images out of a starlink scale sat. Perhaps, but periodic photos, would be possible, and that would be enough for many innovations. >I swear people have taken the usual Elon hype Even I have the after taste of Hyperloop. However, this is different because there are billions being spent to send actual satellites to space. That is not hype. I would not cast aside Elon's vision so easily, especially if he has committed and spent so much on the idea and is actually building out the infrastructure. >This is not a star trek communicator. But Imagine if you could have one. >Is your hiker really gonna be hauling around a giant freakin' dish? Would it be too far fetched to think that those can be shrunk down, perhaps to the size of a suitcase or a backpack? >It's going to be a premium priced broadband service for rural customers and institutions that can afford it. If you know anything about the market you know DoD is gonna be the customer they focus on. Sure, that would be one revenue source. But many innovations in the world are made possible due to what is available. Would an app store be possible without the iPhone? But, when the iPhone was made, the app store, as a concept was at best, a theoretical idea in Jobs' mind.

jasonwatkinspdx 6y ago
> Imagine being able to see live video, or AI enhanced video (movement detection, etc). A lot more bandwidth will open up many areas for innovation. For what benefit? > Imagine being able to get real-time data of patients being transported in planes or ground vehicles. This is a very niche use case. > But there is not much data about wind patterns, directions, barometric pressure, etc. Satellites can observe on a macro level. If you can combine that with micro level ground data, perhaps predictions for weather would be more accurate. I'm sorry but this is incredibly ignorant. There's a huge volume of data that's fed into several global weather modeling supercomputers continuously. That's literally where the weather forecasts on your tv come from. > Perhaps, but periodic photos, would be possible, and that would be enough for many innovations. You still aren't getting it. There are fundamental physical limits to image resolution based on the size of the optics. You'd have trouble resolving individual creatures even with a telescope the scale of Hubble/KeyHole. Starlink changes nothing about this. > However, this is different because there are billions being spent to send actual satellites to space. The hype is people speculating on applications like the above that are entirely implausible and unrealistic. It's on the same scale as thinking the next Tesla is going to be a flying delorian with fusion power. > But Imagine if you could have one. But you just aren't fantasizing, you're claiming these fantasies will become real in the short term without understanding the limitations that preclude them. > Would it be too far fetched to think that those can be shrunk down, perhaps to the size of a suitcase or a backpack? Yes, it is too far fetched. You cannot shrink a wavelength. In addition, starlink's design requires the transmission/received lobes have a certain maximum beam width. The global capacity of the system depends on this parameter. That means they need phased arrays of a certain minimum size in terms of array area and number of array elements to meet their specs. > But, when the iPhone was made, the app store, as a concept was at best, a theoretical idea in Jobs' mind. There were examples of app stores before iPhone. That wasn't a unique new concept.

jasonwatkinspdx 6y ago

> Imagine being able to see live video, or AI enhanced video (movement detection, etc). A lot more bandwidth will open up many areas for innovation. For what benefit? > Imagine being able to get real-time data of patients being transported in planes or ground vehicles. This is a very niche use case. > But there is not much data about wind patterns, directions, barometric pressure, etc. Satellites can observe on a macro level. If you can combine that with micro level ground data, perhaps predictions for weather would be more accurate. I'm sorry but this is incredibly ignorant. There's a huge volume of data that's fed into several global weather modeling supercomputers continuously. That's literally where the weather forecasts on your tv come from. > Perhaps, but periodic photos, would be possible, and that would be enough for many innovations. You still aren't getting it. There are fundamental physical limits to image resolution based on the size of the optics. You'd have trouble resolving individual creatures even with a telescope the scale of Hubble/KeyHole. Starlink changes nothing about this. > However, this is different because there are billions being spent to send actual satellites to space. The hype is people speculating on applications like the above that are entirely implausible and unrealistic. It's on the same scale as thinking the next Tesla is going to be a flying delorian with fusion power. > But Imagine if you could have one. But you just aren't fantasizing, you're claiming these fantasies will become real in the short term without understanding the limitations that preclude them. > Would it be too far fetched to think that those can be shrunk down, perhaps to the size of a suitcase or a backpack? Yes, it is too far fetched. You cannot shrink a wavelength. In addition, starlink's design requires the transmission/received lobes have a certain maximum beam width. The global capacity of the system depends on this parameter. That means they need phased arrays of a certain minimum size in terms of array area and number of array elements to meet their specs. > But, when the iPhone was made, the app store, as a concept was at best, a theoretical idea in Jobs' mind. There were examples of app stores before iPhone. That wasn't a unique new concept.