> That there is an example of a thing is no argument that all things follow that pattern. Of course not. Nowhere did I argue that there are no good laws. Every

> That there is an example of a thing is no argument that all things follow that pattern. Of course not. Nowhere did I argue that there are no good laws. Every law should be evaluated on its own merits. > And as far as the law goes, yes, something illegal does mean something deserves punishment, under the law. Under the law. The law is the opinion of the state. If something deserves punishment under the law, the state believes it deserves punishment. That doesn't mean it actually does. > Ignoring that lots of items that are counterfeited are also copyright violations? Anything copying custom code is a copyright violation, and a massive amount of products now have some programmed component. Then why did you bring trademarks into this? They're separate issues, even if they can occur at the same time. > Nowhere did I make such equivalencies. Please stop with the dramatic metaphors - they're not relevant to the discussion. Absolutely not. I'll continue to express my opinions and arguments the way I see fit.