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I assure you, being diligent about checking for updates is more than enough to solve that issue and there is no need to disable updates in addition. If you inst

by shawnz 6y ago

I assure you, being diligent about checking for updates is more than enough to solve that issue and there is no need to disable updates in addition. If you install them regularly, then you will not be interrupted. You will only be interrupted if you don't do that for weeks. If you don't believe me, then just try it. Don't base your decisions on FUD from tech bloggers about how terrible the update process is.

kd5bjo 6y ago
About a year ago, I had some problems with WSL and decided to do a proper dual-boot setup. The net result was that Windows insisted on doing a long update cycle every time I attempted to use it. This resulted in an effective boot time of 15-30 minutes, which turned out to never be worth it. Why do these devices with almost no moving parts need weekly (or monthly) maintenance? We don’t accept that level of neediness from any other household tool.
- shawnz 6y ago
  For starters, that's a totally unrelated issue from what the other poster was talking about. That is clearly a bug and not an expected behaviour. But consider that you don't use any other household tool for 8+ hours a day, and other household tools are not designed to serve a rapidly moving target of constantly changing application needs.
  - kd5bjo 6y ago
    > That is clearly a bug and not an expected behaviour. No, it’s just a reflection that the pace of updates exceeded my pace of attempting to use Windows. These all applied successfully, and an immediate reboot was fine. > But consider that you don’t use any other household tool for 8+ hours a day I don’t use my household computer nearly that much, either. At a guess, it sees a comparable amount of use as my dishwasher which demands significantly less attention. (My office computer is a different story). > Other household tools are not designed to serve a rapidly moving target of constantly changing application needs. Regardless of its design intent, my application needs aren’t rapidly changing: I use a computer for roughly the same things as I did 1 or 2 or 3 years ago. Why should I pay the time cost of upgrades to enable features I have no intention of using?
- __MatrixMan__ 6y ago
  It's because more people use chrome than use edge, which is clearly a broken situation. They're determined to fix it though, no matter how many updates it takes.
Silhouette 6y ago
I assure you, being diligent about checking for updates is more than enough to solve that issue and there is no need to disable updates in addition. If you install them regularly, then you will not be interrupted. Changing back settings that you already changed once and an update reverted is still an interruption. Having ads or new social-media-backed login screens shoved in your face when you try to run your software is still an interruption. Restoring damaged or destroyed data from backups is still an interruption. Reinstalling a wrecked system because some device driver or anti-virus update rendered it inoperable is still an interruption. We are far from the rosy future you describe in some of your comments here. You might have been lucky enough not to get caught out recently, but clearly many people and businesses have not been so lucky.
mmphosis 6y ago
This is not out of fear, this is my process so that I can do my work: I use the computer pretty much everyday. I temporarily turn on the scheduled update every night after work. I wait for it to check, and update and restart if needed. After all of the checks, updates, and restarts I turn off the scheduled updates to avoid the risk of updates occurring during work. So far, good enough.

by shawnz 6y ago

I assure you, being diligent about checking for updates is more than enough to solve that issue and there is no need to disable updates in addition. If you install them regularly, then you will not be interrupted. You will only be interrupted if you don't do that for weeks. If you don't believe me, then just try it. Don't base your decisions on FUD from tech bloggers about how terrible the update process is.

kd5bjo 6y ago

About a year ago, I had some problems with WSL and decided to do a proper dual-boot setup. The net result was that Windows insisted on doing a long update cycle every time I attempted to use it. This resulted in an effective boot time of 15-30 minutes, which turned out to never be worth it. Why do these devices with almost no moving parts need weekly (or monthly) maintenance? We don’t accept that level of neediness from any other household tool.

shawnz 6y ago
For starters, that's a totally unrelated issue from what the other poster was talking about. That is clearly a bug and not an expected behaviour. But consider that you don't use any other household tool for 8+ hours a day, and other household tools are not designed to serve a rapidly moving target of constantly changing application needs.
- kd5bjo 6y ago
  > That is clearly a bug and not an expected behaviour. No, it’s just a reflection that the pace of updates exceeded my pace of attempting to use Windows. These all applied successfully, and an immediate reboot was fine. > But consider that you don’t use any other household tool for 8+ hours a day I don’t use my household computer nearly that much, either. At a guess, it sees a comparable amount of use as my dishwasher which demands significantly less attention. (My office computer is a different story). > Other household tools are not designed to serve a rapidly moving target of constantly changing application needs. Regardless of its design intent, my application needs aren’t rapidly changing: I use a computer for roughly the same things as I did 1 or 2 or 3 years ago. Why should I pay the time cost of upgrades to enable features I have no intention of using?
__MatrixMan__ 6y ago
It's because more people use chrome than use edge, which is clearly a broken situation. They're determined to fix it though, no matter how many updates it takes.

Silhouette 6y ago

I assure you, being diligent about checking for updates is more than enough to solve that issue and there is no need to disable updates in addition. If you install them regularly, then you will not be interrupted. Changing back settings that you already changed once and an update reverted is still an interruption. Having ads or new social-media-backed login screens shoved in your face when you try to run your software is still an interruption. Restoring damaged or destroyed data from backups is still an interruption. Reinstalling a wrecked system because some device driver or anti-virus update rendered it inoperable is still an interruption. We are far from the rosy future you describe in some of your comments here. You might have been lucky enough not to get caught out recently, but clearly many people and businesses have not been so lucky.

mmphosis 6y ago

This is not out of fear, this is my process so that I can do my work: I use the computer pretty much everyday. I temporarily turn on the scheduled update every night after work. I wait for it to check, and update and restart if needed. After all of the checks, updates, and restarts I turn off the scheduled updates to avoid the risk of updates occurring during work. So far, good enough.