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Wow! Do HN people actually know Drakeo? I never expected to see this here. Free Drakeo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lzAefl8KIs https://www.youtube.com/wa

by 3131s 6y ago

Wow! Do HN people actually know Drakeo? I never expected to see this here. Free Drakeo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lzAefl8KIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lzAefl8KIs

lsh 6y ago
Speaking for all HN people, yes we know Drakeon. It evolves from an Eevee using a Rainbow Stone.
mrslave 6y ago
The social values promoted in this video are appalling. I'd like to see viewer's age demographics but I'm afraid I already know the answer. (Also anticipating downvotes. Hopefully the set of those interested in this article can withhold downvoting-for-disagreement.)
- hi5eyes 6y ago
  its west coast trap music what do you expect
- 3131s 6y ago
  Ha! The video I posted is tame for gangster rappers. What exactly are you outraged by in the video? Crashing cars? Guns? Drinking lean? The lyrics? What's really appalling is that Americans enacted stupid policies that pitted the police in war against the gangs over drug profits. The part of Watts where these rappers like Drakeo and 03 Greedo grew up is absolutely brutal, but the Crip set there is well connected after 50 years of activity. I guarantee these guys don't care whether you like it or not... but it's reality until you can overcome your outrage and legalize the things that make gang life so potentially lucrative.
  - gridlockd 6y ago
    > ...legalize the things that make gang life so potentially lucrative. Oh, you mean legalize robbery, extortion, theft and burglary too? What do you think gang members are going to do if just one of their most lucrative streams of money dries up, get a job at McDonalds?
    - pmachinery 6y ago
      That Al Capone didn't turn to flipping burgers after the 21st Amendment doesn't illustrate the correctness of the 18th Amendment. Robbery, extortion, theft and burglary - plus other crimes and social ills - are all made far, far, far worse by keeping the control and supply of recreational drugs firmly in the hands of homicidal maniacs.
      - gridlockd 6y ago
        > Robbery, extortion, theft and burglary - plus other crimes and social ills - are all made far, far, far worse... Really? What's the evidence for that? I'm not necessarily in favor of criminalizing drug trade, but it stands to reason that absent that "line of business", criminals would be under higher pressure to make money otherwise. Drug trade at least is more likely to only affect those involved with drugs, whereas these other crimes are more likely to affect "bystanders".
        pmachinery 6y ago
        > Really? What's the evidence for that? I thought this was an uncontroversial fact everyone knew, but a two-second search on drug-related crime would answer your question, with many links. For example: "In 2004, 17% of state prisoners and 18% of federal inmates said they committed their current offense to obtain money for drugs [...] In 2002 about a quarter of convicted property and drug offenders in local jails had committed their crimes to get money for drugs [...] Among state prisoners in 2004 the pattern was similar, with property (30%) and drug offenders (26%) more likely to commit their crimes for drug money than violent (10%) and public-order offenders (7%)." https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm > I'm not necessarily in favor of criminalizing drug trade, but it stands to reason that absent that "line of business", criminals would be under higher pressure to make money otherwise. Drug legalization is not about ending all crime, and nobody is saying it would, so I'm not sure why you keep saying this. It's about reducing the power of organized crime/cartels, reducing drug-related crime (see above), providing more effective rehabilitation and safety/health, and civil liberties. > Drug trade at least is more likely to only affect those involved with drugs, whereas these other crimes are more likely to affect "bystanders". I'm not even sure what you're arguing here, but it seems to be that you think the drug trade only negatively affects drug users and, even more bizarrely, that criminals aren't already involved in "other crimes".
- anm89 6y ago
  I think the music is lacking value more than the social values are lacking.
- GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
  Pearl clutching over adult men driving cars, then smoking weed and hanging out. It’s west coast trap music, that’s a fairly tame music video.
s_trumpet 6y ago
Greedo, Drakeo and Shoreline Mafia are probably the most exciting West Coast hip hop artists at the moment.
- hm-nah 6y ago
  If you're excited by a simple, Seuss-esque rhyming pattern with hollow lyrics. Its rather the trap beat and vocoder that appeal (to anyone); viral sounds; ear worms; thats about it. Nothing moving the culture ahead. Nothing revolutionary as far as content goes.
  - hm-nah 6y ago
    03 Greedo sounds pretty much the same... "...choppa make ya do a backflip, redrum..." Translated: "My gun has so much power it will blow you over backwards, murder". Why is anyone still listening to this type of content? I'll tell you why... the beat and the vocoder. I could LITERALLY say any dumb ish over a trap beat and it would catch your ear and make you nod your head. Thats the danger of passive listening. You will find yourself nodding your head to terrible words. Guard your mentals!
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
  - s_trumpet 6y ago
    The production is why I listen. Take 03 Greedo's "Sweet Lady" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE3v7nSnHN4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE3v7nSnHN4), for instance - this flips a hip-hop convention on its head by mixing the vocals lower than the sample, giving it a faraway quality I'd argue is innovative within genre constraints. The other factor is that I feel like the West Coast is in a general slump right now compared to even five years ago. The Bay Area sound is played out; the YG/Nipsey (RIP)/Game modernized-classic gangsta rap sound hasn't had any good projects for a while; and Kendrick himself hasn't released anything since the Black Panther OST two years ago.
gridlockd 6y ago
> Free Drakeo! Yeah, no. He belongs in jail. Maybe not specifically for murder, but certainly for some of the other stuff he has been involved with.
- 3131s 6y ago
  And why is that? Being friends with gangsters is a crime now too?
  - nujabe 6y ago
    Birds of a feather flock together.
    - sincerely 6y ago
      Not the soundest legal principle.
  - gridlockd 6y ago
    If you're going to be "friends with gangsters", please do that from the confines of your prison cell. That's my personal opinion, I'll leave the specific legal charges up to the prosecutors.
- ericns 6y ago
  Why would they stop their violence and be held accountable when the authorities people like you put in power aren't able to be held accountable? How do you feel about the board and executive team at Purdue Pharma? Weird how we invaded Afghanistan and then how much does it hurt and how much heroin do you need became part of every medical diagnosis.
  - gridlockd 6y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

by 3131s 6y ago

Wow! Do HN people actually know Drakeo? I never expected to see this here. Free Drakeo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lzAefl8KIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lzAefl8KIs

lsh 6y ago

Speaking for all HN people, yes we know Drakeon. It evolves from an Eevee using a Rainbow Stone.

mrslave 6y ago

The social values promoted in this video are appalling. I'd like to see viewer's age demographics but I'm afraid I already know the answer. (Also anticipating downvotes. Hopefully the set of those interested in this article can withhold downvoting-for-disagreement.)

hi5eyes 6y ago
its west coast trap music what do you expect
3131s 6y ago
Ha! The video I posted is tame for gangster rappers. What exactly are you outraged by in the video? Crashing cars? Guns? Drinking lean? The lyrics? What's really appalling is that Americans enacted stupid policies that pitted the police in war against the gangs over drug profits. The part of Watts where these rappers like Drakeo and 03 Greedo grew up is absolutely brutal, but the Crip set there is well connected after 50 years of activity. I guarantee these guys don't care whether you like it or not... but it's reality until you can overcome your outrage and legalize the things that make gang life so potentially lucrative.
- gridlockd 6y ago
  > ...legalize the things that make gang life so potentially lucrative. Oh, you mean legalize robbery, extortion, theft and burglary too? What do you think gang members are going to do if just one of their most lucrative streams of money dries up, get a job at McDonalds?
  - pmachinery 6y ago
    That Al Capone didn't turn to flipping burgers after the 21st Amendment doesn't illustrate the correctness of the 18th Amendment. Robbery, extortion, theft and burglary - plus other crimes and social ills - are all made far, far, far worse by keeping the control and supply of recreational drugs firmly in the hands of homicidal maniacs.
    - gridlockd 6y ago
      > Robbery, extortion, theft and burglary - plus other crimes and social ills - are all made far, far, far worse... Really? What's the evidence for that? I'm not necessarily in favor of criminalizing drug trade, but it stands to reason that absent that "line of business", criminals would be under higher pressure to make money otherwise. Drug trade at least is more likely to only affect those involved with drugs, whereas these other crimes are more likely to affect "bystanders".
      - pmachinery 6y ago
        > Really? What's the evidence for that? I thought this was an uncontroversial fact everyone knew, but a two-second search on drug-related crime would answer your question, with many links. For example: "In 2004, 17% of state prisoners and 18% of federal inmates said they committed their current offense to obtain money for drugs [...] In 2002 about a quarter of convicted property and drug offenders in local jails had committed their crimes to get money for drugs [...] Among state prisoners in 2004 the pattern was similar, with property (30%) and drug offenders (26%) more likely to commit their crimes for drug money than violent (10%) and public-order offenders (7%)." https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm https://www.bjs.gov/content/dcf/duc.cfm > I'm not necessarily in favor of criminalizing drug trade, but it stands to reason that absent that "line of business", criminals would be under higher pressure to make money otherwise. Drug legalization is not about ending all crime, and nobody is saying it would, so I'm not sure why you keep saying this. It's about reducing the power of organized crime/cartels, reducing drug-related crime (see above), providing more effective rehabilitation and safety/health, and civil liberties. > Drug trade at least is more likely to only affect those involved with drugs, whereas these other crimes are more likely to affect "bystanders". I'm not even sure what you're arguing here, but it seems to be that you think the drug trade only negatively affects drug users and, even more bizarrely, that criminals aren't already involved in "other crimes".
anm89 6y ago
I think the music is lacking value more than the social values are lacking.
GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
Pearl clutching over adult men driving cars, then smoking weed and hanging out. It’s west coast trap music, that’s a fairly tame music video.

s_trumpet 6y ago

Greedo, Drakeo and Shoreline Mafia are probably the most exciting West Coast hip hop artists at the moment.

hm-nah 6y ago
If you're excited by a simple, Seuss-esque rhyming pattern with hollow lyrics. Its rather the trap beat and vocoder that appeal (to anyone); viral sounds; ear worms; thats about it. Nothing moving the culture ahead. Nothing revolutionary as far as content goes.
- hm-nah 6y ago
  03 Greedo sounds pretty much the same... "...choppa make ya do a backflip, redrum..." Translated: "My gun has so much power it will blow you over backwards, murder". Why is anyone still listening to this type of content? I'll tell you why... the beat and the vocoder. I could LITERALLY say any dumb ish over a trap beat and it would catch your ear and make you nod your head. Thats the danger of passive listening. You will find yourself nodding your head to terrible words. Guard your mentals!
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
- s_trumpet 6y ago
  The production is why I listen. Take 03 Greedo's "Sweet Lady" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE3v7nSnHN4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE3v7nSnHN4), for instance - this flips a hip-hop convention on its head by mixing the vocals lower than the sample, giving it a faraway quality I'd argue is innovative within genre constraints. The other factor is that I feel like the West Coast is in a general slump right now compared to even five years ago. The Bay Area sound is played out; the YG/Nipsey (RIP)/Game modernized-classic gangsta rap sound hasn't had any good projects for a while; and Kendrick himself hasn't released anything since the Black Panther OST two years ago.

gridlockd 6y ago

> Free Drakeo! Yeah, no. He belongs in jail. Maybe not specifically for murder, but certainly for some of the other stuff he has been involved with.

3131s 6y ago
And why is that? Being friends with gangsters is a crime now too?
- nujabe 6y ago
  Birds of a feather flock together.
  - sincerely 6y ago
    Not the soundest legal principle.
- gridlockd 6y ago
  If you're going to be "friends with gangsters", please do that from the confines of your prison cell. That's my personal opinion, I'll leave the specific legal charges up to the prosecutors.
ericns 6y ago
Why would they stop their violence and be held accountable when the authorities people like you put in power aren't able to be held accountable? How do you feel about the board and executive team at Purdue Pharma? Weird how we invaded Afghanistan and then how much does it hurt and how much heroin do you need became part of every medical diagnosis.
- gridlockd 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia