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If it's safe to say so - I don't wanna jeopardize your methods here - how did you obtain it? As far as I can tell, normal consumers can't buy them "legit", but

If it's safe to say so - I don't wanna jeopardize your methods here - how did you obtain it? As far as I can tell, normal consumers can't buy them "legit", but they are "illegitimately" resold anyways, which makes rejection of their "validity" during activation a possibility (assuming Microsoft finds out, of course).

gruez 6y ago
>which makes rejection of their "validity" during activation a possibility (assuming Microsoft finds out, of course). AFAIK Microsoft doesn't revoke existing activations, so you should be fine unless you need to reinstall. If you dont want that risk, a locally hosted kms server (running in a VM for maximum security) achives the same thing.
- bilegeek 6y ago
  Good to know. Also, I never knew about kms servers; TIL.
Tijdreiziger 6y ago
It's not illegal to resell software (at least in the EU).
- bilegeek 6y ago
  Illegal != breach of contract. They control the activation servers, they can just refuse activation if they felt you've violated the contract.
  - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
    "Europe's highest court ruled on Tuesday that the trading of 'used' software licenses is legal and that the author of such software cannot oppose any resale." [1] [1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2505356/eu-court-rules-resale-of-used-software-licenses-is-legal----even-online.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/2505356/eu-court-rules...
    - nottorp 6y ago
      Tuesday, July 3, 2012. Did that ruling change anything in practice? I don't see ads for used Windows licenses anywhere.
      - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
        For example: https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/ https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-profession...
        nottorp 6y ago
        I don't see anything about that being a used key. On the contrary, it warns you it can only be activated once for one hardware combination. Edit: those are usually MSDN or volume license keys that shouldn't be resold but will activate nevertheless. Reselling those may be legal only in the EU, but still, they're not used.
    - gruez 6y ago
      But this is pertaining to msdn subscriptions, which provide keys for a variety of Microsoft products. According to the article, you can't break them up to sell individually >In a small victory for Oracle, the ECJ ruling prevents resellers from breaking up a license and selling only part of it if they have purchased licenses for more users than they need.

gruez 6y ago

>which makes rejection of their "validity" during activation a possibility (assuming Microsoft finds out, of course). AFAIK Microsoft doesn't revoke existing activations, so you should be fine unless you need to reinstall. If you dont want that risk, a locally hosted kms server (running in a VM for maximum security) achives the same thing.

bilegeek 6y ago
Good to know. Also, I never knew about kms servers; TIL.

Tijdreiziger 6y ago

It's not illegal to resell software (at least in the EU).

bilegeek 6y ago
Illegal != breach of contract. They control the activation servers, they can just refuse activation if they felt you've violated the contract.
- Tijdreiziger 6y ago
  "Europe's highest court ruled on Tuesday that the trading of 'used' software licenses is legal and that the author of such software cannot oppose any resale." [1] [1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2505356/eu-court-rules-resale-of-used-software-licenses-is-legal----even-online.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/2505356/eu-court-rules...
  - nottorp 6y ago
    Tuesday, July 3, 2012. Did that ruling change anything in practice? I don't see ads for used Windows licenses anywhere.
    - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
      For example: https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/ https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-profession...
      - nottorp 6y ago
        I don't see anything about that being a used key. On the contrary, it warns you it can only be activated once for one hardware combination. Edit: those are usually MSDN or volume license keys that shouldn't be resold but will activate nevertheless. Reselling those may be legal only in the EU, but still, they're not used.
  - gruez 6y ago
    But this is pertaining to msdn subscriptions, which provide keys for a variety of Microsoft products. According to the article, you can't break them up to sell individually >In a small victory for Oracle, the ECJ ruling prevents resellers from breaking up a license and selling only part of it if they have purchased licenses for more users than they need.