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> Putilo is “wanted” in both Belarus and Russia and facing up to 15 years imprisonment Isn't Telegram based in Russia? I'm surprised Russia didn't try to get t

by ars 6y ago

> Putilo is “wanted” in both Belarus and Russia and facing up to 15 years imprisonment Isn't Telegram based in Russia? I'm surprised Russia didn't try to get them to bock Putilo, or at the minimum that Russia would cooperate with a Belarusian internet block.

ffpip 6y ago
The Russian ban on Telegram was lifted recently. They couldn't enforce it, because Telegram was very good at proxies, so the people used it anyway. Heck, even govt officials used it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-telegram-kremlin-pavel-durov/2020/06/27/4928ddd4-b161-11ea-98b5-279a6479a1e4_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-telegram-... https://decrypt.co/32837/russia-lifts-ban-on-telegram-after-two-years-of-trying https://decrypt.co/32837/russia-lifts-ban-on-telegram-after-...
- Nginx487 6y ago
  For those who do not aware how this story began. After the ban was introduced, Russian Internet Monitoring Agency (Роскомнадзор) tried to enforce it, blocking whole subnets where Telegram proxies were spotted. It led to massive shutdown of many Russian IT companies' services, relying on AWS and DO infrastructure, with resulting multimillion dollar losses. However, Telegram remained afloat, ashaming Russian officials responsible for censorship. After several years of numerous attempts, they still could not enforce the ban (honestly, their expertise visibly worse than, let's say, those who designed Great Chinese Firewall), and had to officially lift it.
wmf 6y ago
Telegram was created by Russian expats who are at odds with the Putin administration. It's pretty popular in that sphere though.
- chupasaurus 6y ago
  If "at odds" is "give us your social network or we would put you in a prison", then you're right. Work on Telegram started before that situation in the same office of Vkontakte, by now it's being operated by expats.
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by ars 6y ago

ffpip 6y ago

The Russian ban on Telegram was lifted recently. They couldn't enforce it, because Telegram was very good at proxies, so the people used it anyway. Heck, even govt officials used it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-telegram-kremlin-pavel-durov/2020/06/27/4928ddd4-b161-11ea-98b5-279a6479a1e4_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-telegram-... https://decrypt.co/32837/russia-lifts-ban-on-telegram-after-two-years-of-trying https://decrypt.co/32837/russia-lifts-ban-on-telegram-after-...

Nginx487 6y ago
For those who do not aware how this story began. After the ban was introduced, Russian Internet Monitoring Agency (Роскомнадзор) tried to enforce it, blocking whole subnets where Telegram proxies were spotted. It led to massive shutdown of many Russian IT companies' services, relying on AWS and DO infrastructure, with resulting multimillion dollar losses. However, Telegram remained afloat, ashaming Russian officials responsible for censorship. After several years of numerous attempts, they still could not enforce the ban (honestly, their expertise visibly worse than, let's say, those who designed Great Chinese Firewall), and had to officially lift it.

wmf 6y ago

Telegram was created by Russian expats who are at odds with the Putin administration. It's pretty popular in that sphere though.

chupasaurus 6y ago
If "at odds" is "give us your social network or we would put you in a prison", then you're right. Work on Telegram started before that situation in the same office of Vkontakte, by now it's being operated by expats.

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