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>European language Hindi, Persian, Bengali and the likes are all European languages and I don't think those languages have the name Sam.

mc32 6y ago
I think you’re redefining the term european language —which typically means a language that developed in that region. It’s like saying English is a Japanese language because a percentage of people in Japan speak English except it did not originate there. Indo-european is different but that is ancient family of prehistoric languages and hardly anyone would think this is what people mean.
samatman 6y ago
I didn't visit Delhi, Tehran, or Kolkata the last time I was in Europe. My mistake! I'll be sure to next time I'm out that way.
- Angeo34 6y ago
  > The concepts of Europe and Asia as distinct continents date back to antiquity, and their borders are geologically arbitrary. Either you call Hindi, Persian and Bengali European or you call German English and French Asian. But saying one is European/Asian while the other is not is simply a racist view.
  - samatman 6y ago
    Haha this is insane India and Europe are subcontinents of Asia, that's true Languages from India are Indian and languages from Europe are European, that's also true Your mom's racist bud
jdmichal 6y ago
Just to reinforce the point: Those are all part of the INDO-European language group. Emphasis on the fact that European is only half that name, and you're enumerating languages in the other half.
- samatman 6y ago
  To really flog on it, Hungarian isn't Indo-European at all, and Sámuel is a Hungarian name. I'd bet you'll find it among Copts and the Ethiopian Orthodox as well, which is also not in contradiction to what I said.
  - msikora 6y ago
    Samuel is really the perfect name as even the spelling is the same in all European languages except for diacritics in some languages. My name, Michal (Slovak), is not too bad, but the local version varies greatly across Europe: Michael, Michele, Mikael, Miguel, Михаил (Michail), Mihái, etc.
    - gostsamo 6y ago
      Unfortunately, at least in bulgarian Samuel is spelled Samuil (Самуил). Not sure about russian and ukrainian, but they've gotten the slavic translation of the Bible from medieval Bulgaria and a fast ddg shows the family form to exists as "Самуилович".
      - orthoxerox 6y ago
        We have Samuil, but it's more common among Russian Jews than ethnic Russians.
msikora 6y ago
What he's really talking about are Christian or Judeo-Christian names.

mc32 6y ago

I think you’re redefining the term european language —which typically means a language that developed in that region. It’s like saying English is a Japanese language because a percentage of people in Japan speak English except it did not originate there. Indo-european is different but that is ancient family of prehistoric languages and hardly anyone would think this is what people mean.

samatman 6y ago

I didn't visit Delhi, Tehran, or Kolkata the last time I was in Europe. My mistake! I'll be sure to next time I'm out that way.

Angeo34 6y ago
> The concepts of Europe and Asia as distinct continents date back to antiquity, and their borders are geologically arbitrary. Either you call Hindi, Persian and Bengali European or you call German English and French Asian. But saying one is European/Asian while the other is not is simply a racist view.
- samatman 6y ago
  Haha this is insane India and Europe are subcontinents of Asia, that's true Languages from India are Indian and languages from Europe are European, that's also true Your mom's racist bud

jdmichal 6y ago

Just to reinforce the point: Those are all part of the INDO-European language group. Emphasis on the fact that European is only half that name, and you're enumerating languages in the other half.

samatman 6y ago
To really flog on it, Hungarian isn't Indo-European at all, and Sámuel is a Hungarian name. I'd bet you'll find it among Copts and the Ethiopian Orthodox as well, which is also not in contradiction to what I said.
- msikora 6y ago
  Samuel is really the perfect name as even the spelling is the same in all European languages except for diacritics in some languages. My name, Michal (Slovak), is not too bad, but the local version varies greatly across Europe: Michael, Michele, Mikael, Miguel, Михаил (Michail), Mihái, etc.
  - gostsamo 6y ago
    Unfortunately, at least in bulgarian Samuel is spelled Samuil (Самуил). Not sure about russian and ukrainian, but they've gotten the slavic translation of the Bible from medieval Bulgaria and a fast ddg shows the family form to exists as "Самуилович".
    - orthoxerox 6y ago
      We have Samuil, but it's more common among Russian Jews than ethnic Russians.

msikora 6y ago

What he's really talking about are Christian or Judeo-Christian names.