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Huh. I'd love to know where you're getting that idea from. Through a strange series of events (extreme sports hobbies) I became friends with a group of doctors

by s5300 6y ago

Huh. I'd love to know where you're getting that idea from. Through a strange series of events (extreme sports hobbies) I became friends with a group of doctors, none of them participating in anything very special or that could be seen as a career height. Most really just starting out after the hell that is med school. They spoke of pretty regular outreach of gifts from pharma. Mainly in the form of fancy retreats (like to Hawaii - note, we were based in SoCal at the time) with pretty extravagant dinners and fancy boating stuff. These were, according to them, always filled with the brim with others like them to the point it got to be quite frankly boring, annoying, and a nuisance. No matter how hard they tried to ignore the unsolicited outreach, it wouldn't stop coming. Just some anecdata tho.

refurb 6y ago
The guidelines also reiterate the group’s 2002 code, which prohibited more expensive goods and services like tickets to professional sports games and junkets to resorts. And it asks companies that finance medical courses, conferences or scholarships to leave the selection of study material and scholarship recipients to outside program coordinators. [1]https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/business/31drug.html https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/business/31drug.html
- s5300 6y ago
  Huh. Call me crazy, but it almost seems as if guidelines and codes haven't meant much for a while. Like, real life "air quotes" oh yes, we won't send them to resorts. Well, if I had to make an educated guess, they really did cross their fingers and nobody seems to be investigating/enforcing otherwise and they're getting away with it - because I'm telling you, first hand... it's happening, quite frequently, at least on the West Coast.
  - refurb 6y ago
    I used to work in the industry when all this changed. Could there be a one-off company doing it? Sure. They are risking being brought up on Federal charges for it. The gov't has gone after drug companies for much less.

by s5300 6y ago

refurb 6y ago

The guidelines also reiterate the group’s 2002 code, which prohibited more expensive goods and services like tickets to professional sports games and junkets to resorts. And it asks companies that finance medical courses, conferences or scholarships to leave the selection of study material and scholarship recipients to outside program coordinators. [1]https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/business/31drug.html https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/business/31drug.html

s5300 6y ago
Huh. Call me crazy, but it almost seems as if guidelines and codes haven't meant much for a while. Like, real life "air quotes" oh yes, we won't send them to resorts. Well, if I had to make an educated guess, they really did cross their fingers and nobody seems to be investigating/enforcing otherwise and they're getting away with it - because I'm telling you, first hand... it's happening, quite frequently, at least on the West Coast.
- refurb 6y ago
  I used to work in the industry when all this changed. Could there be a one-off company doing it? Sure. They are risking being brought up on Federal charges for it. The gov't has gone after drug companies for much less.