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Indeed. Despite multiple assurances that they could have done it as well, I'm still not aware of any modern art coming out of HN. I too could have invented cal

Indeed. Despite multiple assurances that they could have done it as well, I'm still not aware of any modern art coming out of HN. I too could have invented calculus (after learning about it in school).

JadeNB 6y ago
> I too could have invented calculus (after learning about it in school). Incidentally, this is written as if it's obvious, but it's not at all a given that you can invent something even after you've been taught it. If you can, then it's a serious credit to your teacher.
msla 6y ago
> I'm still not aware of any modern art coming out of HN. You think software isn't art?
- alextheparrot 6y ago
  I suppose there is a reason they call software’s thinking artificial intelligence if we’re getting into the details
  - msla 6y ago
    What are you talking about?
    - alextheparrot 6y ago
      Artificial comes from a Latin root meaning “of or belonging to art”, which I found funny given your question
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- Applejinx 6y ago
  Missing the point. Nobody is asking whether Jackson Pollock could code. The suggestion is that HN commenters are talking a big game about cutting-edge visual media, but they're not creating high quality visual art in such a way as to authenticate their specific opinions on other people's visual art. I've worked pretty hard on producing video support for my live synth music, and have got better at it over time. Doesn't make me a painter, though. In many ways my stuff is pretty pedestrian compared to working video artists: I tend to go for your basic 'light show effects', crowd-pleasing stuff. My imagination as far as coming up with really novel environments… that's what could use some work.
  - the_af 6y ago
    Plenty of people in tech are also artists. I know I can draw pretty well, and I'm also a hobbyist.
pmoriarty 6y ago
"Despite multiple assurances that they could have done it as well, I'm still not aware of any modern art coming out of HN." I've made abstract art for decades. I don't share it with HN as that's not really what HN is for, and I'm pretty private about it anyway. I very much doubt I'm the only artist on HN either. Just because you haven't seen HN users' art doesn't mean they don't make any. That said, I fully agree that many non-artists underestimate how difficult it is to make some art. Also, there's something to be said for doing it first and stretching the definition of what counts as art, no matter how technically "easy" it was. The quintessential example of this being Malevich's "Black Square".[1] After Malevich, it could be argued that much of the rest of modern art whose main point was to show that "anything can be considered art" could be seen as just minor variations. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Square_%28painting%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Square_%28painting%29

JadeNB 6y ago

> I too could have invented calculus (after learning about it in school). Incidentally, this is written as if it's obvious, but it's not at all a given that you can invent something even after you've been taught it. If you can, then it's a serious credit to your teacher.

msla 6y ago

> I'm still not aware of any modern art coming out of HN. You think software isn't art?

alextheparrot 6y ago
I suppose there is a reason they call software’s thinking artificial intelligence if we’re getting into the details
- msla 6y ago
  What are you talking about?
  - alextheparrot 6y ago
    Artificial comes from a Latin root meaning “of or belonging to art”, which I found funny given your question
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
Applejinx 6y ago
Missing the point. Nobody is asking whether Jackson Pollock could code. The suggestion is that HN commenters are talking a big game about cutting-edge visual media, but they're not creating high quality visual art in such a way as to authenticate their specific opinions on other people's visual art. I've worked pretty hard on producing video support for my live synth music, and have got better at it over time. Doesn't make me a painter, though. In many ways my stuff is pretty pedestrian compared to working video artists: I tend to go for your basic 'light show effects', crowd-pleasing stuff. My imagination as far as coming up with really novel environments… that's what could use some work.
- the_af 6y ago
  Plenty of people in tech are also artists. I know I can draw pretty well, and I'm also a hobbyist.

pmoriarty 6y ago

"Despite multiple assurances that they could have done it as well, I'm still not aware of any modern art coming out of HN." I've made abstract art for decades. I don't share it with HN as that's not really what HN is for, and I'm pretty private about it anyway. I very much doubt I'm the only artist on HN either. Just because you haven't seen HN users' art doesn't mean they don't make any. That said, I fully agree that many non-artists underestimate how difficult it is to make some art. Also, there's something to be said for doing it first and stretching the definition of what counts as art, no matter how technically "easy" it was. The quintessential example of this being Malevich's "Black Square".[1] After Malevich, it could be argued that much of the rest of modern art whose main point was to show that "anything can be considered art" could be seen as just minor variations. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Square_%28painting%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Square_%28painting%29