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Education is hard. After working as a TA for freshmen for some semesters, I categorized college classes after this fashion: 10% of students succeed, no matter
by pnathan 16y ago
Education is hard. After working as a TA for freshmen for some semesters, I categorized college classes after this fashion:
10% of students succeed, no matter what you do to them. Those seemed to be the hacker types.
10% of students fail, no matter what you do for them(reasons range from cheating to family deaths).
80% of students mark their boxes and do okay; better teaching helps them, worse teaching harms them. They would correspond to the 8-5 workers, IMO.
At the heart of educational discussions sit some deep philosophical questions, such as:
Nature or Nurture?
What handholding level is appropriate?
How much moral leadership is appropriate?
Education systems: simple knowledge or more?
Is education for the individual or for the society?
What expectations do you have for someone who graduates high school? College?
What does equality mean when people are different?
These are not simply answered questions. There is considerable nuance needed to begin discussing them in any real-world situation.
A(The?) core issue relates to the human beings involved - to give a glossy example: some people like being factory workers. Others hate it. What education system handles this problem?
Another major issue is that the cycle time on a k-12 educational system is at least 16 or so years (likely something more like 30 years). Failing fast is problematic, and leaves human detritus...
I consider the US public educational system deeply flawed. I think that Woz's ideas are worth investigating. There are a multiplicity of educational reform ideas out there, and some work better than others. Woz's has the advantage that he's actually taught, so it may have a better chance than others of being reality based instead of pure ideology. Also, he's a genius. :-)
- stretchwithme 16y agoThese are complex questions. Which means they probably should NOT be left to a political process to decide. Parents and the students themselves (eventually) should decide. Will some make mistakes and fail? Yep. But that's better than the entire system being hobbled, which is our current situation. We have a tendency of trying to take over everyone's decision just because some suck at making decisions. We seem to want people to think they are like everyone else rather than experiencing consequences and learning from feedback. I watched Waiting For Superman the other night and apparently this is the exact same problem that is preventing the public schools from getting and developing the great teachers that great teaching requires. The unions want us to think all teachers are the same and do whatever they can to stop bad teachers from being fired. Anyone concerned about the quality of education should check out this movie.
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