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I missed that part. Though both multigenerational families and college students could be served well by multi-structure setups as well. Or in many cases, better

I missed that part. Though both multigenerational families and college students could be served well by multi-structure setups as well. Or in many cases, better served.

klyrs 6y ago
Maybe the college students -- but in my experience, rent in large houses is cheaper per-room than smaller apartments. My brother is a professional musician and lives with others near/at the poverty line -- they simply can't afford to live in smaller places. Maybe that will change on the supply side, but more likely, demand will rise just as fast. Multigenerational families are not better served. If they're doing a new build, it can work. But imagine trying to purchase not one, but four houses on the same lot. That's a helluva coincidence to wait for, for them all to be vacant simultaneously.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  Have you lived in a multi-generational home? I am right now and have done so in various ways for the past 25 years, it is vastly better to have some separation. I'm not going to generalize. But for us, multi-generational homes happen over time as opposed to moving the whole family at once regardless. Kids grow up and need space, but can't afford to buy a place. Parents get older and move in with kids, etc etc.
  - klyrs 6y ago
    No, I haven't. Some of my immediate neighbors do; one household immigrated as a family so they're on the forefront of my mind. I appreciate your perspective; thanks for sharing.
    - ogre_codes 6y ago
      Also, I think the point about big homes and multi-generational families is on-point and wasn't trying to disparage it. I just was pointing out that there is at least some mitigation.
bradleybuda 6y ago
Or, maybe armchair central planners like you and I and the Portland City Council shouldn’t decide what’s best for people we’ve never met and let them decide instead.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > shouldn’t decide what’s best for people we’ve never met and let them decide instead. I totally agree! I didn't mean to imply this bit about house size is good. In general, this measure removes piles of restrictions on land use and that's one of the big reasons I like it. I was just pointing out that there are some work-arounds.
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- tick_tock_tick 6y ago
  I mean at this point I'm confident every armchair planner is more competent.

I missed that part. Though both multigenerational families and college students could be served well by multi-structure setups as well. Or in many cases, better served.

klyrs 6y ago

Maybe the college students -- but in my experience, rent in large houses is cheaper per-room than smaller apartments. My brother is a professional musician and lives with others near/at the poverty line -- they simply can't afford to live in smaller places. Maybe that will change on the supply side, but more likely, demand will rise just as fast. Multigenerational families are not better served. If they're doing a new build, it can work. But imagine trying to purchase not one, but four houses on the same lot. That's a helluva coincidence to wait for, for them all to be vacant simultaneously.

ogre_codes 6y ago
Have you lived in a multi-generational home? I am right now and have done so in various ways for the past 25 years, it is vastly better to have some separation. I'm not going to generalize. But for us, multi-generational homes happen over time as opposed to moving the whole family at once regardless. Kids grow up and need space, but can't afford to buy a place. Parents get older and move in with kids, etc etc.
- klyrs 6y ago
  No, I haven't. Some of my immediate neighbors do; one household immigrated as a family so they're on the forefront of my mind. I appreciate your perspective; thanks for sharing.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    Also, I think the point about big homes and multi-generational families is on-point and wasn't trying to disparage it. I just was pointing out that there is at least some mitigation.

bradleybuda 6y ago

Or, maybe armchair central planners like you and I and the Portland City Council shouldn’t decide what’s best for people we’ve never met and let them decide instead.

ogre_codes 6y ago
> shouldn’t decide what’s best for people we’ve never met and let them decide instead. I totally agree! I didn't mean to imply this bit about house size is good. In general, this measure removes piles of restrictions on land use and that's one of the big reasons I like it. I was just pointing out that there are some work-arounds.
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tick_tock_tick 6y ago
I mean at this point I'm confident every armchair planner is more competent.