> However, once you learn the skill of making things testable, you can find that you don't really need to write tests first anymore... which makes TDD less usef

> However, once you learn the skill of making things testable, you can find that you don't really need to write tests first anymore... which makes TDD less useful Exactly! Plus, I find the idea that TDD produces decoupled architecture to not be true. In fact, it's usually the exact opposite unless someone has a "testability" mindset, in which case they don't need to TDD in the first place.